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Vee-R
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If there is no logical reason at all for these terms, why do they arise?
My point exactly! 
Well, since you're quite obviously non-sarcastic in your quest for an explanation, I've given you one up there.
But seriously, I just don't see why there should be "African Americans" but not "European Americans". What's the difference?
(You seem to be quite agitated by my opinion, why?)
*Shrugs* ask whoever governs the acceptance of terms in American political culture, I guess. I'm not sure why the terms aren't perfectly aligned, gee.
And nah, I'm not particularly agitated by your opinion, it's just something I tend to hear too often, and it's usually accompanied by an acute case of clamoring at insignificant details while completely ignoring the existence of a big picture. Happens enough in our country, too (I'm making an educated guess that you're Israeli as well).
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"Space cannot be measured. It cannot be angered, it cannot be placated. It cannot be summed up. Space is there.
"Space is not large and it is not small. It does not live and it does not die. It does not offer truth and neither does it lie.
"Space is a remorseless, senseless, impersonal fact."
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meep-eep
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Noone is talking about judging by race. Yes, they are. They're talking about using race as a factor to determine anything about a person. That's a definition of "judging", and the one I intended to use; a less loaded word didn't come to mind at the time.
Like one might talk about "Dutch culture", even though many of the properties in mind will not be specific to "Dutch culture" and/or will not be possessed by many Dutch people. But that does not mean that there aren't customs which are prevalent and notable here, and if you're refering to that aspect of life as a Dutchman, the term will work just fine.
Or you could look at the voting distribution in American presidential elections. Even though the difference doesn't come from the fact that their skins are of different colours1, you can't deny that the distribution for "whites" is very much different from the one for "blacks". For these purposes, grouping by "race" makes a lot of sense. Again, you're determining things about groups, not individuals. (Although the determined distributions give you probabilities of an individual voting one way or another, and I don't see any problem with that either.)
Oh, and you're not going to convince me to say things like "The dark-brown-skinned vote goes for 65% to the republican candidate."
1 Not directly at least; the reasons for voting differently is often dependant on the situtation one is in, which may depend on the treatment received from others based on skin colour.
Also, my post wasn't answering your point; it was intended for VileRancour and Zeep-Eeep. I never said it was. I didn't say I was not talking about judging by race, I said noone was.
Or are you implying that I'm not allowed to respond because your remark wasn't directly directed at me?
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