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Lukipela
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It would seem to me that some of you fellows are taking Valaggar just a wee bit too seriously. If you don't like his topics, why read them at all? I mean, even with his crazy amount of postings, it's not like he's flooding more interesting and mature threads such as "I R INTERNET" and "MONKEY MONKEY" off the first page. If he'd be doing that, then I'd understand your ire.
And even though his posts may at times seems rather nonsensical and odd, they are still connected to the topic. It's not like he's posting "I am the rainbow machine, religion is sex, beer and pot" in every thread on the board.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly see how he might feel amusing. He posts a huge amount, and his type of writing is somewhat light-hearted, and can even be construed as silly if you're in the right (wrong) frame of mood. But if any of you were here for Z-man and monkeyboy, or even for good old Term, you should have the good sense to recognize some harmless silliness. Reply in spirit if you feel necessary, or just don't reply. But all this whining is really getting annoying.
Of course, if you're desperate for a solution, I suppose meep could overhaul the software to add an ignore option? It's a question of effort versus usefulness.
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Valaggar
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It's not like he's posting "I am the rainbow machine, religion is sex, beer and pot" in every thread on the board. You mean like this?
mature threads such as "I R INTERNET" Except here.
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« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 05:06:51 pm by Valaggar the Wackrazy One »
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Grakelin
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The time you spent looking for Zanthius's post on another forum probably could have been better spent completing something that might actually help your arguments.
I really don't see the big deal here at all. You already have a project going that changes the voice yourself, so props for your own initiative there. If the voices irk you so much, can't you turn them off? My interests in acting and writing have evolved into me turning the voices off of characters in other games portrayed by very skilled actors and simply murmuring them to myself in the voice I want. I've never written any letters to Stephen King for the poor performance of the bit actors in "The Stand" (honestly, why are they so bad? D: ), so I don't see why you have to write letters to Paul Reiche about the Utwig.
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« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 05:26:51 pm by Grakelin »
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Valaggar
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The time you spent looking for Zanthius's post on another forum probably could have been better spent completing something that might actually help your arguments.
1. What arguments?
2. I already knew Zanthius' post.
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Grakelin
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The arguments you're making about the Utwig's voice being of poor quality.
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Valaggar
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Meh... after all, that's just a question of opinion. I can't convince anyone that it's bad (and I've already pumped out lots of arguments).
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Valaggar
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Assertion: Feeling experienced by majority of units identified as UQM forumers equals annoyance towards system unit.
Conclusion: System unit's presence equals inopportune plus unwanted.
Directive: System unit is directed to initiate warp engines.
<As the chaotic, swirling energies subsided, a heavy silence settled over the UQM forum.>
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Grakelin
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This isn't the first post in which you pretend to be a computer, and it's still too ambiguous to make sense.
EDIT: Though, after a few read-throughs, I think it is him leaving the forum and stating that it will die without him. Heh, right.
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« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 07:10:47 pm by Grakelin »
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Galvennmeister
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I've got to reply for Valaggar, he's at the moment at the insane asylum.
So... well he's not pretending to be a computer, just a Daktaklakpak (from SCNot3). See here.
Ah, and he's not stating that the forum will die without him, he's just trying to make himself a dramatic leave, poor Val. Some of you may recognize his last line as the beginning of the epilogue of vanilla StarCraft.
Yay my English has improved!
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Shiver
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I've got to reply for Valaggar, he's at the moment at the insane asylum. So... well he's not pretending to be a computer, just a Daktaklakpak (from SCNot3). See here. Ah, and he's not stating that the forum will die without him, he's just trying to make himself a dramatic leave, poor Val. Some of you may recognize his last line as the beginning of the epilogue of vanilla StarCraft. Yay my English has improved!
That doesn't do much good if you're the same person as he is.
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Zarnium
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You know, all this stuff saying "Valaggar ahould be banned" and whatever is really off-topic. I don't want to offend anyone, but if you're talking about his posts being stupid/nonsensical/off-topic is rather redundant seeing as you're being rather off-topic here  . Unless he starts posting obscene material, give him a break. Besides, I haven't read all 900+ posts he's made in the time shorter than I've been here, but I actually think his posts are often witty and amusing in and odd way.
As for the actual topic of this thread, I think The Utwig voice is fine and doesn't really need changed.
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Lukipela
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Fact is, he's annoying a lot of people.
I think it is a valid position to argue that if someone's presence is detrimental to the community, even though he means well -- or at least, doesn't mean ill -- he should go.
Now I'm not sure I adhere to that position entirely. I want this to be a board where noone should be afraid to say what he thinks, even if that means tolerating some undesirable behaviour. That's why I try to keep moderation to a minimum. (That's not to say I don't wish Valaggar got bored and went elsewhere.)
But we were too late acting with Zanthius. I myself still found him tolerable, after he agreed to stick to a few specific threads in the off-topic section. But he chased away a few valued members of the community, and we shouldn't let that happen again.
So please, give me your input.
I suppose you're right. Different things will annoy different people. I myself find some sort of child-like innocence in Valaggar, which makes him seem sweet rather than annoying. But the forum is under your jurisdiction, and if enough people complain, steps will have to be taken. I was unaware of any "agreement" with Zanthius. At the very least, he seemed to have no trouble entering new threads (such as the religion one). Perhaps you should work out something similar with Valaggar. Just a simple agreement that there will only be one Utwig voice thread where all posts concerning complaints, remakes, and other things are kept would probably remove a lot of the irritation most forumgoers feel.
I've got to reply for Valaggar, he's at the moment at the insane asylum. So... well he's not pretending to be a computer, just a Daktaklakpak (from SCNot3). See here. Ah, and he's not stating that the forum will die without him, he's just trying to make himself a dramatic leave, poor Val. Some of you may recognize his last line as the beginning of the epilogue of vanilla StarCraft. Yay my English has improved!
This doesn't really help your case in any way.
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Cedric6014
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Okay Meep-Eep, here is my input
Valaggar is not abusive, offensive, disruptive or antagonistic and he does not delight in putting others down. There are some perhaps more highly regarded forum members who are some of the above and no-one is asking for them to be restricted.
Valaggar is polite, friendly, self-effacing and loves Star Control. He can be good for the forum.
Valaggar needs to post less frivolous and “what if” threads. I would REALLY like to see the Utwig thing put to rest. I firmly believe that there is nothing to be gained in the
Utwig voice crusade. Emailing Paul about the voice is not a good look for the UQM forum, but banning him won’t necessarily stop that.
Valaggar needs also to be a bit slightly less weird and ditch his alter-egos.
Valaggar posts less now than he used to because of a Meep-Eep request. I don’t see why Meep-Eep or another moderator cannot kindly ask him to abide by a reasonable set of guidelines/restrictions. I have no doubt he would comply. I don’t think you can stop all his craziness, but I don’t think there is any need to.
I agree with Lukipela in that it is very easy to just ignore his threads completely. I always read them for amusement’s sake as much as anything else, but I don’t usually dignify them with a reply.
In conclusion:
Send him a list of dos and don’ts and leave it at that.
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