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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2007, 11:06:51 pm »

Okay Meep-Eep, here is my input

Valaggar is not abusive, offensive, disruptive or antagonistic and he does not delight in putting others down. There are some perhaps more highly regarded forum members who are some of the above and no-one is asking for them to be restricted.

Valaggar is polite, friendly, self-effacing and loves Star Control. He can be good for the forum.

Valaggar needs to post less frivolous and “what if” threads. I would REALLY like to see the Utwig thing put to rest. I firmly believe that there is nothing to be gained in the
Utwig voice crusade. Emailing Paul about the voice is not a good look for the UQM forum, but banning him won’t necessarily stop that.

Valaggar needs also to be a bit slightly less weird and ditch his alter-egos.

Valaggar posts less now than he used to because of a Meep-Eep request. I don’t see why Meep-Eep or another moderator cannot kindly ask him to abide by a reasonable set of guidelines/restrictions. I have no doubt he would comply. I don’t think you can stop all his craziness, but I don’t think there is any need to.

I agree with Lukipela in that it is very easy to just ignore his threads completely. I always read them for amusement’s sake as much as anything else, but I don’t usually dignify them with a reply.


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Send him a list of dos and don’ts and leave it at that.


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Re: Project: CWUV
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2007, 11:19:07 pm »

Pretty much what Cedric said.

ETA that the Utwig thing hasn't annoyed me, but I suppose it's getting to be a bit much... especially with the email.  It's a good thing tfb are good-natured about this.
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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2007, 10:05:36 am »

Oh my, how I would have liked to make myself a dramatic return...
now this entire plan is ground to dust.
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« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2007, 02:14:57 pm »

Cedric: you actually want me to make a list of don'ts including "Don't be so weird"? Because ofcourse Valaggar will interpret "weird" in exactly the same way as you and I do... Yes, that's going to work...
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« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2007, 02:27:12 pm »

No I was thinking of more of a list of specific things like perhaps
1) Please don't mention Utwig voices
2) please don't post under an alter ego
3) Please dont post ala Daktaklakpak
4) Please post less that 4 posts per day
plus whatever else - others might have other suggestions

You requested some input so I have offered the best i could come up with. Sorry if I wasn't specific enough. Others might offer better solutions, or you might have other ideas.
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« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2007, 02:41:13 pm »

5. Do not make unneccesary threads for the same subject over and over again.
6. Keep your thread creation to 1 per week tops.

the FAQ could contain something along the line of: Use general etiquette on the forums. We wouldn't have a silly forum rules thread then and still covered some of the bases. And give the mods a reason to hand out some whippin'  for apparantly no reason.  Cheesy

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« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2007, 02:56:42 pm »

7. Thou shalt not make too long first posts in your threads.
8. Thou shalt not impersonate moderators.
9. Thou shalt not post Syreen pr0n (unless it's well-drawn  Grin).
10. Thou shalt not make polls with too many options.
11. Thou shalt not make three posts in a row.
12. Thou shalt not spell the awful name whose initials are G.J..
13. Ignore all rules.

 - The Thirteen ( Undecided) Commandments, given by the God meep-eep to the prophet Valamoses on Mount UQM.

Ah, and a slight change to 6.:
6. Thou shalt keep your thread creation to at most 1 thread of yours in 7 threads.

EDIT: God uses smileys...
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« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2007, 03:41:37 pm »

I do not post often, but I have to give my opinion on this one...

I kind of like Vallagar, the man has brought some spirit back to the forums, and after all, every community needs their "fool" (no offense)  Grin

But I am getting a bit tired or hearing his rant about the Utwig voice. PLEASE STOP!

Also, writing e-mails to TFB about a subject that is clearly irrelevant for most of the people (besides what you might think, IT IS) is not going to help anyway.

C'mon Vallagar, please stop talking about this (or at least do not open any new threads about the subject, nor mention it every other post), its enough.

You are a valuable asset to the community, don't ruin it by being annoying.

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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2007, 04:09:11 pm »

I'll agree, Valaggar's constant senseless questions HAVE helped, especially with the novelization I'm working on (which I'm getting back to shortly. This is taking waaay too long), though many of his suggestions on things make no sense at all. A mathematical equation on wheter the Kohr-Ah or the Kzer-Za are more traumatized? Psychology doesn't work quite so well when turned into algebra.

I second the motion that we just let the voice-thing die. It should be obvious after the twentieth thread where people say  "I really don't care", that people really don't care.
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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2007, 04:14:28 pm »

bla bla bla

definitely annoying.
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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2007, 04:47:38 pm »

Maybe defenetly, yep, but not definitely.
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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2007, 05:35:18 pm »

Valaggar does annoy me at times, but I don't think he's done anyhting ban-worthy. He's not actively trying to hurt the community. That said, you need to stop beating the Utwig dead horse into the ground. It's really, really obnoxious how much you go on and on about their voice.

However, while I don't think he deserves a ban, a suspension for a week or so might be good next time he gets out of hand.
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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2007, 05:42:52 pm »

To be honest, I doubt any rules would work at this stage. Like it or not, Val has built up quite a reputation for being repetitive, obsessive and annoying. At this stage, even if he stops spamming Utwig threads, ceases his dummy accounts (why is that even allowed?) and refrains from posting insanely long and silly posts, the image of him as such a poster will likely always remain with him.

Like I said earlier, I don't really think it's hurting the community. I do notice quite a few members who seem to be doing their best to shift our "friendly open and accepting" tradition though. Maybe we should also have just one thread for complaining about other posters?

EDIT: Along with not having many Utwig threads, I don't suppose we could try to keep just one picture thread as well, instead of filling the forum?
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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2007, 06:12:15 pm »

Ok. It's hard to qualify all the things Valaggar does that irritate people (how much is too much?). But he seems to have a good idea of some the things he does that irritate people. So I'd just say, try not to do that.

A few hard rules I would want to set:
  • No more complaining about the voices. If you make another voice pack or something similar, don't make a new thread about it, but use one of your old ones.
  • No more sock puppets. I'm deleting Galvenmeister and Lucas Mattheus. I should have done that the moment I realised they were sock puppets.
  • No impersonating people, moderators or not.

Received, Valaggar?
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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2007, 06:23:47 pm »

Maybe defenetly, yep, but not definitely.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/definitely

I motion we add a rule where he doesn't correct people's spelling in an attempt to be a smartass.
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