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« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2007, 06:55:41 am »

What did I leave out besides a big

SUCKA FOOOO

So the duties are split in pantheons...every god has a responsibility there is at least a creator or many.

Hindu - Brahma
Norse - Odin and his brothers used Ymir's body to create the universe.
Egyptian - Many different stories. But the gods came together to accomplish creation.
Shintoism - Many gods created
Greek - Nyx gave birth to the gods
Vodun - Damballah

Anyway - you get the point. There are also gods that don't create but make law. But I figured if someone didn't know what a god was maybe we should start with the basics.
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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2007, 07:00:07 am »

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The stupidity you demonstrated in what I refered to should be obvious to most people. Of course that doesn't include you, else you wouldn't be foolish enough to try and argue that in the first place.
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« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2007, 07:03:15 am »

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I think maybe we should just take things slow. Wink
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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2007, 07:05:13 am »

Oooo, ooo!  Can you make it flash on and off, too?  And put sparklies behind it?

I think sparklies would make your argument more convincing.
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« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2007, 07:12:38 am »

Oooo, ooo!  Can you make it flash on and off, too?  And put sparklies behind it?

I think sparklies would make your argument more convincing.

Indeed. sparklies always make vulgararity much more convincing. Perhaps a few smilies as well? Or an ASCII goatse? that'd really impress me.

No matter how you want to turn this, you've made two statements that are mutually exclusive.

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A god is defined as a creator of the universe. That definition is consistent.

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So the duties are split in pantheons...every god has a responsibility there is at least a creator or many.

Either your definition is consistent, or it's not. Either every god is a creator of a universe, or he is not. You don't get to say "Well it's always like this except when I decree it not to be" without getting called on it. And when you do, it might be good to admit a mistake rather than resorting to vulgarities.


EDIT: I also love how there is 6+ users online and everyone is viewing this topic. It's almost as fun as Controversial Subject.
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« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2007, 07:22:40 am »

So what else would you base religion on? I was always under the impression that religion is a spiritual thing, a belief in purpose and/or god in some form or another. How would you base a religion on more... earthly things?

Scientology perhaps?

Few things are as earthly as money!  Which is what the Cult of $cientology is all about!

But generally speaking, the whole purpose of religion is making people feel better, unless you're the 'Foe of the Day' .  Someone you love die? They're "in a better place."   Have things suddenly gone very badly for you? Gawd has a plaaaaan!  Human beings like the idea of some super-being looking out for them, it makes them happy.  As long as they don't go changing laws to fit their own personal morality, I really don't care. 

But then again, the only thing I worship is my parrot.
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« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2007, 07:23:37 am »

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Deus's sleazy style of posting warrants hostile behavior. You are right that Nutty Buddy got her facts fixed up, and I'm sure if you had called her on it first she would have responded rationally.
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« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2007, 07:25:25 am »

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« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2007, 07:30:29 am »

Deus's sleazy style of posting warrants hostile behavior. You are right that Nutty Buddy got her facts fixed up, and I'm sure if you had called her on it first she would have responded rationally.

No it doesn't. This isn't SA Shiver. That someone else behaves in an annoying fashion doesn't give you a carte blanche to do the same thing. You can ignore them, or respond and ignore the annoying parts of their messages. Or you can point out which parts you think are arrgoant and so forth. But if you want to participate in a discussion on the internet about religion of all things, you need to keep cool, and focus on the task at hand.

Looking at the thread, it seems a lot of people are forgettign this. Lets try and behave like fully functioning hominids shall we? Instead of flinging poo, how about we continue with the actual subject instead?

EDIT: Or i guess we could just keep yelling and insulting. So in keeping with the theme... Obviously this thread fails because there are women here, and everyone knows women can't think properly without overheating their poor little brains. This is what has happened here. Step away from the Internets young ladies, and back to the kitchen with you!
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« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2007, 07:36:39 am »

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And the chain-smoker with hemeroids style of your posts apparently warrants further mutilated quotes and the recycled profanity that will ultimately cost a christian the right to get into a "beautiful" place in the end. Wink
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« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2007, 07:39:23 am »

Ok, so the simple definition of what a god is doesn't work in all cases - I will admit to that - I was starting monotheistic on the subject (since that encompasses most of the major religion) And I had already ammended myself.  It seems that correcting your mistakes has become unacceptable.

Deus_Siddis claimed to not know what a god was as his reasoning for not believing in one. Which is total crap. And I thought I'd share my knowledge. (which was not complete at the time) Who hasn't been guilty of that? If we knew everything this thread would never have existed.

Neither of us are authorities on the subject and I don't think I should be bashed for holding a stupid argument in the stupid argument room.

As for the obscenity, it was out of place and somewhat childish - However, I did retract the big FUCK YOU and replaced it promptly another something that is much less obscene.

After all this, I must say that I don't think either of us are 100% correct in anything we had to say to each other.

Admission of my own stupidity will not change my opinion that Deus_Siddis is off his rocker.
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« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2007, 07:39:48 am »

No it doesn't. This isn't SA Shiver. That someone else behaves in an annoying fashion doesn't give you a carte blanche to do the same thing. You can ignore them, or respond and ignore the annoying parts of their messages. Or you can point out which parts you think are arrgoant and so forth. But if you want to participate in a discussion on the internet about religion of all things, you need to keep cool, and focus on the task at hand.

Looking at the thread, it seems a lot of people are forgettign this. Lets try and behave like fully functioning hominids shall we? Instead of flinging poo, how about we continue with the actual subject instead?

You're not a moderator. The ones who are have a very laissez faire attitude towards things, so in essence I can flame someone relentlessly. What exactly gives you the impression that insults on this forum are some sort of un-crossable boundary? I think his arguments are shit, his attitude is arrogant beyond belief and the way he mixes snotty little remarks into nearly every "factual" Roll Eyes post he makes is completely under-handed. Of course I'm not going to "play fair" or whatever you're telling me to do.
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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2007, 07:43:50 am »

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Looking at the thread, it seems a lot of people are forgettign this. Lets try and behave like fully functioning hominids shall we? Instead of flinging poo, how about we continue with the actual subject instead?

We could, but only if we forget that this subject has already been discussed to death over multiple lifetimes by us and many others across millions of discussion boards across teh internets. And never has anyone actually given an inch in their beliefs. So either way, we are not fully functional. In fact, it might just be our fingers that are functioning.
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« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2007, 07:48:15 am »

You're not a moderator.

Nor have I ever claimed to be. I am however the resident Saint Wink

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The ones who are have a very laissez faire attitude towards things, so in essence I can flame someone relentlessly.

Of course you can. And I can flame you on flaming him in infinitum.

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What exactly gives you the impression that insults on this forum are some sort of un-crossable boundary?

Because traditionally, this has been a forum where discussions have been kept on track and on topic. That is conductive to discussion, and helps people both appreciate your points and bring forth their own. There is no point in even trying to discuss an issue, if retards with flame-shovels are just sitting by, waiting to pounce on someone who doesn't behave in accordance with their definition of proper. The quality of discourse has been decreasing in recent times, but that doesn't mean we necessarily have to devolve to caveman style discussions.

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I think his arguments are shit,

Then argument by argument you can point that out, rather than just making blanket statements that help derail threads.

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his attitude is arrogant beyond belief and the way he mixes snotty little remarks into nearly every post he makes is completely under-handed.

In which case you are free to point that out. I've done so myself with RTyp06 in several debates. Again, I don't see how flinging insults around will resolve your troubles, nor enhance the board experience for others.

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Of course I'm not going to "play fair" or whatever you're telling me to do.

Of course not. Instead you are just going to complain and complain and complain and... err.. what's the ultimate goal you're aiming for here? I forget. The utwig voices was it?
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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2007, 07:51:23 am »

We could, but only if we forget that this subject has already been discussed to death over multiple lifetimes by us and many others across millions of discussion boards across teh internets. And never has anyone actually given an inch in their beliefs. So either way, we are not fully functional. In fact, it might just be our fingers that are functioning.

If you don't think the discussion has anything to give you, there is no onus to participate Deus. And discussion doesn't need to be about giving an inch. It can equally well be about learning how other people think, and how they believe. You don't have to change your mind to have a good discussion, you just have to learn new things.
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