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My thoughts on SC2 UQM
« on: August 27, 2007, 06:29:18 pm »

 First off, I'm quite far from being a noob when it comes to gaming.  Though I am new here, as post #1 would suggest, I just wanted to start out by saying what a fantastic remake this game has been.  I'm more of the classic gamer at heart, having as many DOS games as I kept or acquired over the years.  Games like Ascendancy, MOO 1 & 2, Imperium Galactica 1 & 2,  many of the Wing Commander series to even older games like, Mines of Titan, Hard Nova, Day of the Viper, Battletech, and others.  I feel that the newer games rely on hyper graphics and gore to get the gamers attention which is sad.  Yes yes, there are different strokes for different folks yet this remake actually did what several remakes fail to do; Keep the feel of the original and make it better, kina like Dupont! Yes, this type of game is not for everyone, but the one thing, and most likely the most difficult, were the voices.  After drolling through the SC3 voice and dialog, I found SC2 remake just perfect.  There wasn't a single time I couldn't stand their voices, in fact, me helped he keep focused.  I could't stop laughing at the Utwig when he finally got to the “Are you still listening?” part.  Every single voice fit the race quite well so i thank everyone involved in that.  There is a problem with after beating the game the voice no longer works, but that's something I'll ask in the bug report link.

The Game.  Well this is truly a game that, back in my college days, my friend tyler and I would hash through and figure it all out just in the nick of time.  He has some annoying super-power to figure out games like this 10% of the way through.  Without the hints I may have been lost.  But what good gamer installs a game and never reads the instruction book hm?  Of course you do.  I honestly couldn't get enough of it.  I was in control and not fixed to some railroad coaster from which there was no escape, save the time limit where I wish there was more of it to explore the galaxy.  My first run through the game and I bet I never got to 80% of the planets.  Also, what game out there allows you to tell a race of blood thirsty monsters to mis-pronounce words in the name of their two god's then attack another race without a single question.  Thats power, and dang funny.  It's like commanding the BORG to say “Assistance is Refusal, you will be Fibrillated!”  I mean you're looking into the eyes of death and they say something like that?  That's great stuff.

I have to go through the game and first get that quazi portal thingy to get from point a-b faster to allow time to have more fun but this is a very well done remake and I'm gona make copies and mail one to Tyler.  He'll get a blast from it.  Thanks everyone for their hard work.
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 07:27:34 pm »

Welcome to the forum. Please take the time to sign this petition for a Star Control sequel.

Every single voice fit the race quite well so i thank everyone involved in that.
I get the feeling that most new players think that the UQM remake team did the voices too. Maybe I'm not right with that feeling. Anyway, they were done by Toys for Bob, the company that made the original game, when they ported it to the 3DO. You seem to have not played the original anyway, but I'm saying this anyway.
By the way, if you are a new player to Star Control, can you please tell me what you think of the Utwig (how do you view them, what trait describes them best), and whether you gave them the Ultron back already or not. Just wondering.

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2007, 07:44:19 pm »

I will gladly sign the pet....The link goes nowhere.

As far as the Utwig: I surely did rummage the universe and fixed their Ultron!  Yet it was more fun showing them the broken version and listening to them whine about it.  Yet, to me, there is nothing like seeing two races converge on the bad guys.  Yes!  As far as the Utwig themselves, I rather like their ships, infact, I used two of them to take down the shields of the Sa-Mantra claw thingy of doom.  Their energy absorbers kept me going the whole run through.  As for the race, I took it from the prespective of the Supox. Great guys but over depressing, yet that made the Utwig all the more fun.

Sorry about the confusion of the voice thing and who did them.  Still my opinion stands on the porting to the windows version and the voices used for the races.  All the more I play SC UQM, it makes me feel SC3 is such a waste. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 09:07:27 am »

Thank you for the fresh eyes perspective on the Utwig. My last reservation about their voice has been dissolved.
As for the petition - the link is good, look a bit downwards on the page where there are the three boxes (or didn't the page load? try again, it happens quite often that some of these UQM sites is in maintenance).
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2007, 07:52:19 am »

What does this mean you are now okay with the Utwig voice? Because I don't think I am okay with you being okay with the Utwig voice
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 09:16:58 am »

What does this mean you are now okay with the Utwig voice? Because I don't think I am okay with you being okay with the Utwig voice
I'm okay with that as long as you're not okay with Valaggar being okay with the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than Valaggar was not okay with the Utwig voice. Okay? Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 09:48:27 am »

What does this mean you are now okay with the Utwig voice? Because I don't think I am okay with you being okay with the Utwig voice
I'm okay with that as long as you're not okay with Valaggar being okay with the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than Valaggar was not okay with the Utwig voice. Okay? Wink

I disagree. I think it would absolutely hilarious if Valaggar now started making an enormous amount of threads entitled "Who here likes the Utwig voice" and "The utwig voice - just good, or brilliant?"
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 10:25:04 am »

Actually, as I have explained in the PM I used as a reply...
I still dislike it and think that it goes overboard. But I don't think anymore that it must be replaced, because I see that it doesn't make new players think that the Utwig are naturally depressed or even *gasp* emo.

What does this mean you are now okay with the Utwig voice? Because I don't think I am okay with you being okay with the Utwig voice
I'm okay with that as long as you're not okay with Valaggar being okay with the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than Valaggar was not okay with the Utwig voice. Okay? Wink

I disagree. I think it would absolutely hilarious if Valaggar now started making an enormous amount of threads entitled "Who here likes the Utwig voice" and "The utwig voice - just good, or brilliant?"
Actually, that was what Novus was saying in the first place:
*I'm okay with that as long as you're not okay with Valaggar being okay with the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than Valaggar was not okay with the Utwig voice.
*I wouldn't like it if you were okay with Valaggar being okay with the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than Valaggar used when nagging about the Utwig voice.
*I don't like the idea of Valaggar expressing his love of the Utwig voice in a less verbose fashion than he used when nagging about the Utwig voice.
*I don't like the idea of Valaggar expressing his love of the Utwig voice in a non-exaggerated way.
*I want Valaggar to make a lot of threads in which he says how much he likes the Utwig voice.

Now let's get over the Utwig voice already.
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Re: My thoughts on SC2 UQM
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2007, 04:29:37 pm »

Actually, that was what Novus was saying in the first place:
*I want Valaggar to make a lot of threads in which he says how much he likes the Utwig voice.
I'm not entirely sure what I was saying and I'm too tired to check your reasoning step-by-step, but something like that, probably. Smiley

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Now let's get over the Utwig voice already.
Agreed (although I reserve the right to make humorous, snide or otherwise useless comments every time you mention it  Grin).
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 09:37:07 am »

Meh. Apparently i need to train my reading skills.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2007, 04:44:16 am »

I'm new here, too, actually, and wanted to say a couple things about Ur-Quan Masters myself. I hope this doesn't count as stealing LTFoxFire's thunder.

I played Star Control 1 back in the day, on an Amiga. I didn't know there was a Star Control 2, or at least I hadn't given it much thought, until a few weeks ago when I downloaded and tried Ur-Quan Masters. I gotta say, it was really fun. It was a new experience, certainly better than Starflight (the game it reminds me of; not that Starflight's bad, it's just not as good I guess?). The first time I played, I kept voices and 3DO music on. I never played the original DOS Star Control 2, so I didn't find it a big loss to not hear those MOD files. And yeah, yeah, I know, "real people don't play SC2 with the voices", but I personally found them all really well-done and they enriched the game for me. Even the Dnyarri with his silly trucker voice. So there.

One thing that I really wanted to say was the QuasiSpace music is apparently different in the 3DO version. I liked the 3DO song a little more, because I felt like it conveyed a meaning to QuasiSpace that I could relate to. The 3DO QuasiSpace theme is stranger, creepier, sinister. The first time I entered QuasiSpace I had to pause the game and just... check my maps for a second. Where the heck am I? Everything's a sickly green. A new dimension, untamed, unknown. And I thought the music was perfect for that.

I've been wanting to do a little voice project where I, personally, redo most of the voices in the game. Not because I think any of them need to be replaced - I thought it'd be a fun project. I wanted to be a voice actor one day, why not get some practice?

Ummm, I think that's all I wanted to say. Hi guys! I guess this counts as an introduction. Sort of?
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 08:50:41 pm »

Meh. Apparently i need to train my reading skills.
English is not your first language, eh?  Wink
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Re: My thoughts on SC2 UQM
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 10:08:18 pm »

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What does this mean you are now okay with the Utwig voice? Because I don't think I am okay with you being okay with the Utwig voice

I don't....Val accepting the Utwig voice....just so.....I mean...I....My reality has been shattered. This can't be possible!!
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