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Question: Do you want/think that the Sequel(TM) has StarFlight II-style trading and minor races*?
I want it and I think it will be.
I want it, but I think it will not be.
I want it, but I can't say how I think it will be.
I don't like that idea, but I think it will be like that.
I don't like that idea and I think it will not be like that.
I don't like that idea, but I can't say how I think it will be.
I care not, but I think it will be like that.
I care not, but I think it will not be like that.
I don't care and I can't say how I think it will be.

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Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« on: September 13, 2007, 09:35:48 pm »

*That is, you have to land on inhabited planets and find the trade center to trade. There are a number of Standard Trade Goods, the same for all races (some may miss depending on their tech level though), and whose depends on whether the planet's economy is Inflated (which sell at higher prices, buy at lower prices), Level (moderate prices) or Depressed (which sell at lower prices, buy at higher prices) - so the better idea with standard goods is buying from a depressed economy and selling to an inflated one.

There are also Specialty Trade Goods, which can generally be sold for more money than you paid for them, and which, having much higher values than standard goods, yield much better profits. Each race has a couple of specialty goods that they want and a couple of specialty goods that they sell (and some of these specialty goods are not wanted by anyone).

Artifacts can also be bought. Most races will only sell them if you've sold them a certain specialty trade good that they like.

By minor races I mean races that have not yet attained space flight technology, so the only interaction possible with them is trading and learning interesting lore about themselves, their culture etc.

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*By that I mean like in Frontier: First Encounter clones (or Infinity: Quest for Earth) - you pilot the ship from the cockpit, and planet exploration and encounters take place within the same (perceived) worldspace.

Also, sorry for the strange wording in the title, I had to shorten it...  Angry
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Re: Poll: Do you want/think that the Sequel(TM) is transitionless first-person?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 11:12:02 pm »

I liked Elite, and Frontier as well (but the less said about First Encounters, the better), but I really don't think that gameplay style is suitable for a Star Control sequel. If anything, I'd like more strategy in a sequel.

That said, making a cockpit-view 3D game in the Star Control universe is not a bad idea at all. Such a game could be to Star Control what Privateer was to Wing Commander.
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Re: Poll: Do you want/think that the Sequel(TM) is transitionless first-person?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 06:56:32 pm »

I really liked the Frontier Elite series, and I think it would greatly benefit from a modern revision. However, I'm not sure how well the Star Control flavoring would incorporate into that. SC2 was based loosely off of Star Flight I think. You were able to take your main ship down to most planets and mine with a surface vehicle, but it wasn’t seamless. Communication with aliens only took place in space and was rather limited. I forget…Was mining a big part of Frontier? Anyway- I disagree with most on this. I think the actual game play of a new SC COULD adopt some aspects from great games like First Encounters and also Carrier Command. CC took the whole remote vehicle idea to a new level. Perhaps the same aspect could be applied to the escort ships in the next SC? Meh… It’s all supposition anyway.

Super realistic space simulation in a seamless environment should get more interest.
This is by no means a bad idea.
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Re: Poll: Do you want/think that the Sequel(TM) is transitionless first-person?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 04:20:37 pm »

Poll: Do you want/think that the Sequel(TM) is transitionless first-person? results:
  • 5 votes for "I don't like that idea and I think it will not be like that."
  • 1 vote for "I want it, but I can't say how I think it will be."

I've decided to use this thread for other SequelTM polls.
Vote now for StarFlight II-style trading and minor races!!!
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Re: Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 06:53:19 pm »

Im so very confused about what this thread is discussing
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Re: Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 07:01:11 pm »

Before the post announcing the first poll's results, this thread dealt with seamless transition between space, planetside and battle. Now we've moved on to another design element, since I have a couple of such questions in mind and I thought it would be better if I don't clutter the forum with a lot of such polls. So I've edited this one instead.

Thus, you can ignore the posts before my poll results post for the current question.
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Re: Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2007, 07:15:07 pm »

So many polls! Do you plan on using this information to make your own sequel? I'm impressed Valaggar. I didn't even know you knew how to program. Could you link to your work and show us what you've done?
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Re: Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2007, 11:07:42 am »

So many polls! Do you plan on using this information to make your own sequel? I'm impressed Valaggar. I didn't even know you knew how to program. Could you link to your work and show us what you've done?


That was funny.

I made these polls to see what other people think of these ideas - if enough people like them, there's quite a chance that PR3&FF also like them and are going to use them for the SequelTM.
Not that I currently have any more ideas for these polls.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2007, 07:38:03 am »

It would probably be a radical change of their current business plan, which wouldn't rhyme with "if it works, don't fix it." 

Furthermore, I have never seen your polls attract more than 20 people (and those aren't actually about the game but a popularity contest)... that's far from enough people. So as long as you don't create it yourself, it's not going to happen. Unless you can get another 10k people responding to this thread...

Please do not see this as a "I don't like you, shoo" post. It's just that I don't think that a poll on a far away forum of a far away game with far away people (face it, most of us are (becoming) relics of the past) will attract the attention that it needs to merit a "business change."
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2007, 02:31:04 pm »

It would probably be a radical change of their current business plan, which wouldn't rhyme with "if it works, don't fix it." 

Furthermore, I have never seen your polls attract more than 20 people (and those aren't actually about the game but a popularity contest)... that's far from enough people. So as long as you don't create it yourself, it's not going to happen. Unless you can get another 10k people responding to this thread...
No, no, no, by "if enough people like them, there's quite a chance that PR3&FF also like them and are going to use them for the SequelTM" I meant that this poll is a way to divine their intentions, not influence them.

Please do not see this as a "I don't like you, shoo" post.
Why would I? Do I use to do like that? I don't think so.  Smiley

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Re: Poll: StarFlight II-style trading and minor races in the Sequel(TM)
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2007, 05:47:45 pm »

I think it would be sort of fun to be able to bargain with the Melnorme and Druuge and whoever else, but it would definitely not be high on the wish list. I much prefer SF1's mining to SF2's trading.

As for seemless transitions, I don't think so. It would not happen unless the game was radically altered to be 3D, more realistically scaled (not that that is saying much, Spore's planetary scale would be enough for this) and planetary surfaces were much more interesting places (again, probably something like Spore).
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 07:30:26 am »

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Sorry, I hate creating long posts with quote this and that. Basically what I wanted to say is that the petition is almost 1,5 years old. I'm not the kind of guy that is going to sit on his hands and wait because perhaps somewhere, out there, someone may actually work out the idea and may put some time and resources in it. I usually stop hoping after the second "if" that I find in such plans/ideas.

I wanted to put up another whole rant about not wanting to start flame wars, but I'd be drifting way off topic. Suffice it to say that I'd rather put something in my post to make sure that it isn't seen as hostile than to have it blown out of proportions.
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 01:33:35 pm »

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Wake up and smell the future! Have a little vision will ya? The implications of what this thread is about are going to be a big part of the future of gaming. And yes; we old relics shake ourselves out of our dusty holes to doubt and mumble at an evolution that has surpassed our fancy and comprehension. It need not be so I think.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 11:21:38 pm »

Do you think that by suggesting what you want to see you're actually limiting what you will see? I mean, in the litegatious atmosphere of America if you could say "I came up with that idea first" you could sue for a portion of the profits. So to be safe, any idea posted on the internet must be avoided.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2007, 12:32:10 am »

I bet people who don't like free exchange of ideas love to publicize that. Undecided
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