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Take a look at this little widget: http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter/
The calculator lets you see what the delegate count is depending on how the future states turn out. I gave Pennsylvania to Clinton by 70%, then every over state that has not already voted by 55% and she still lost. The race is already done, people just don't know it. This means we all get to listen to a few more months of manufactured drama, courtesy of the US media.
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That is interesting. What about the super delegates though? I don't pretend to understand your system, but couldn't they still vote for Hillary no matter what? I mean, she's the one with all the connections.
The superdelegates are already counted in that little slider score thingy. They broke for Hillary Clinton by almost a 2:1 ratio. Doesn't matter now.
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Shiver
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I'm not sure why they put that bit down there because it's so misleading. Essentially, neither democratic candidate is going to hit the number (2025) required to win by default. The highest scoring candidate will be declared the nominee for President later.
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And is this sure? There's no chance some sort of political greasing of the wheels could encourage the super delegates to vote for the other person?
Yes, super delegates can switch. Even pledged delegates can switch. They almost never do this. A delegate switching sides pisses people off. 100 delegates switching sides so that a leading candidate drops to 2nd place would cause a shitstorm. That defies democracy.
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« Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 06:09:36 pm by Shiver »
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So the super delegates have already declared sides? Or do they declare at your party meeting?
Does somebody pay you $10 every time you ask a question? Good lord. The superdelegates voice support for various candidates before the voting even begins, but they can jump ship and vote for someone else at the Democratic convention.
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Death 999
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We did. You did. Yes we can. No.
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We're thinking of replacing it, if that helps.
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« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 05:01:00 pm by Death 999 »
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RTyp06
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Kinda funny yet pathetic, the USA, the supposid epitome of democracy, dosen't have a solution to a tie presidential race. Because the super delegates are too chicken to set off a storm of controversy, which is bound to happen upon nominee. Because we are using an archaic system. What level of incompetence does it take to paint yourself into a corner with contradictory laws such as those that plauge Florida law? And to further our world wide embarrasment, the multitudes of litigation cases that surely will follow the democratic presidential race.
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Didn't we already see exactly that in the 2000 race? The president was effecitvely elected by the Supreme Court after the whole recount / butterfly ballot / hanging chad fiasco.
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