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Re: ZoqFotPik question
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2006, 10:04:07 am »
Quote from: Draxas on August 03, 2006, 05:14:38 pm
The Androsynth are not the only ones with multiple crew members in the captain's pic. As mentioned, the hunams have got two (one lady and one gent; as I said before, does this mean the entire crew is paired up with someone of the opposite gender?),

Of course. It's to prevent loneliness during those long cold space nights aboard the vessel. I don't know if any of you've actually tried it, but a human vessel can actually replenish it's crew the same way as the mycon due to this circumstance. It's fairly easy to try. Enter against a slow enemy. Take one hit. Wait 18 years. Your crew will regenerate as a enw generation steps in to fill the void.

Of course, you can't do this too many times. in simulations with enhanced clock frequency, I've determined that after 20 or so generations, the steering ability of the ship seriously degenerates. I think this may hev to do with inbreeding.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2006, 03:32:29 am »
Or maybe because the captain is really old?   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2006, 06:51:46 pm »
No, the Captain is immortal. This is common knoledge.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2006, 02:38:10 am »
Quote from: Draxas on August 03, 2006, 05:14:38 pm
The Androsynth are not the only ones with multiple crew members in the captain's pic. As mentioned, the hunams have got two (one lady and one gent; as I said before, does this mean the entire crew is paired up with someone of the opposite gender?), and there are two Spathi in their captain pic as well. I'm fairly certain this was done just for flavor (or maybe they couldn't come up with enough simple animations for only one member of those races back in SC1), and so I'm going to just chalk the ZFP pic up to the same idea as well.

Hunam cruiser's got a computer in their picture too.  It lights up when you activate point defense, and I think it's one of the 'casualties' when you get hit under 3.  First is weapons officer, can't remember if it's the helmsman or the comp to take the hit next in the picture.

Damage taken reducing the crew seen in the captain's picture works with the spathi too.  Can't remember if it did with the 'synth...
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2006, 05:27:10 pm »
Quote from: Holocat on August 09, 2006, 02:38:10 am
Quote from: Draxas on August 03, 2006, 05:14:38 pm
The Androsynth are not the only ones with multiple crew members in the captain's pic. As mentioned, the hunams have got two (one lady and one gent; as I said before, does this mean the entire crew is paired up with someone of the opposite gender?), and there are two Spathi in their captain pic as well. I'm fairly certain this was done just for flavor (or maybe they couldn't come up with enough simple animations for only one member of those races back in SC1), and so I'm going to just chalk the ZFP pic up to the same idea as well.

Hunam cruiser's got a computer in their picture too.  It lights up when you activate point defense, and I think it's one of the 'casualties' when you get hit under 3.  First is weapons officer, can't remember if it's the helmsman or the comp to take the hit next in the picture.

Damage taken reducing the crew seen in the captain's picture works with the spathi too.  Can't remember if it did with the 'synth...

This has to be another one of those "things we really remember, but aren't actually in the game" again. I've never seen a captain's portrait for any race get altered from taking damage.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2006, 01:47:05 am »
bet i'm getting it mixed up with the tobermoon earthling mod from http://starcontrol.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sc2shp/ but i'm goggling at the idea my memory could be so... half baked.

This is seriously bugging the hell out of me, but for the life of me I can't find my original disks and the pngs in UQM's files don't even have the maps for damage on them.

Could have sworn that... *mutter mutter*

In a weak defense I have to say i'm beginning to notice things that are... different.  I recall tanaka's ship actually having the limpets on his ship when you battle him, both on his status screen and in the tactical map and I don't recall them in UQM.  I'm beginning to wonder if there were different versions of this game...
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2006, 06:08:04 am »
Now wouldn't it be cool if the pictures changed as the ship's crew decreased. Have like 3 levels of backgrounds with transition effects? Considering the cool animations in the first game (like planetary bombardments and such) I'm surprised they didn't do this.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2006, 09:54:49 am »
Yeah, this is an urban myth. I've played SC2 in DOS and that never happened. You'r memeory is quite faulty. It'd be an interesting idea though
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006, 05:14:36 pm »
However, on a side note, I do remeber Tanaka's ship in the DOS version looking rather crippled and limpety as well, as well as having a modified captain's portrait. Of particular note was that there was a big gash across his destruct switches, implying that he couldn't activate his glory device (even though it's not explicitly stated in dialog, I believe the AI still follows that logic). I wonder why that image was cut from the 3DO version.
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Re: ZoqFotPik question
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2006, 12:33:39 am »
Quote from: Draxas on August 10, 2006, 05:14:36 pm
However, on a side note, I do remeber Tanaka's ship in the DOS version looking rather crippled and limpety as well, as well as having a modified captain's portrait. Of particular note was that there was a big gash across his destruct switches, implying that he couldn't activate his glory device (even though it's not explicitly stated in dialog, I believe the AI still follows that logic). I wonder why that image was cut from the 3DO version.
Eh? All of the above is in UQM, as far as I can remember: modified ship and pilot graphics, Tanaka mentioning the destruct switch breaking (ask him why he didn't use his Glory Device) and so on. I don't have a suitable save game handy, but all the content for this is in UQM.
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Re: ZoqFotPik question
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2006, 01:17:38 am »
In my opinion the captain crew(last one) represents the ones you see and the rest are crew who do other stuff which are not related to actually controlling the ship. (Mainly maintance)
So the zfp has 12 crew, the cruiser has 19 crew etc etc.
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Re: ZoqFotPik question
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2006, 11:14:45 pm »
2 hours of scrounging in the basement...
40 minutes to realize the old 386 bios had its battery run dry years ago and needs the cylinder and head number for the hard drive...
5 minutes of searching on the net to find the specs, only to have the video card fail...
20 seconds to realize that's why you packed the the 386 away in the first place...

...only to find that you're memory has the retention of a broken sieve, again?  Priceless, just priceless.  Tongue

I ran a new game to delta gorno to see if the sofixti had all the correct trappings.  His ship in the combat zone has limpets (which I did not remember) and his captain's picture has the broken switch (which I did remember) but his status pic (the scout pic above the captain's picture) does not have limpets, and I remember that at one point it did.

However, given the state of my memory maybe I should be looking for the cylinder and heads specs for the human brain.  It's obvious that i'm missing a few now.  Undecided
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Re: ZoqFotPik question
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2006, 09:30:12 am »
oooo-Kay! Here's my take:

Crew: number/stat to represent ship size. Therefore it is an approximation. So if the Syreen crew is also an approximation, those little green dots represent approximately 1 (one) crew member per dot. Actually 1.333 or 1.2 or 0.9 crew per dot, or similar.

Alternately, the crew represents hull strength/armour. What about the syreen? (handwave, handwave) (insert long stream of virtually meaningless technoscientific babble, probably involving quanta of photons, mesons, borons and masons).
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