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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2003, 01:53:20 am »

As far as I can tell here, the definition of "flawed" is "any ship that has some sort of weakness".  By that definition, I challenge you to find a ship that ISN'T flawed.  Sure, the Ur-Quan Dreadnought is a massively powerful battle platform, but within SC2 and Arilou can dispatch it easily.  The Chmmr is very strong as well, but a Druuge or an Utwig--both listed as "flawed" above--will pound one into space dust.  Even the Orz ship, which is famous for being at least a fair combatant against any other ship in space, will get nailed by an Androsynth Guardian every time.

They all have weaknesses.  Some of them are clearly weaker than other ships.  They make up for this by lowering the RU cost to build them.  It's SUPPOSED to work that way.
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2003, 02:23:00 am »

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...but none of the battle thralls would even want to overthrow them, whenever you approach any battle thrall race, they all seem happy to be under Ur-Quan rule.


That's not entirely correct; if you remember you can (** spoiler **) convince the Thraddash to attack the Ur-Quan after you become their master and teacher.. hahah making them talk in pig-latin was cool  Grin
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2003, 02:37:11 am »

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Wouldn't we know about all those races in SC3, then? Or even as early as SC1, since the Syreen steal away crew...

Hmm, so Maybe Prof. Zorg was a Dreadnaught crewmember liberated by the syreen? Wink
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2003, 01:39:44 pm »

Indeed, they were happy to fight for the Ur-Quan but the Thraddash DID try to overthrow the Ur-Quan after you directed them to!

I've played the original PC game, so don't fret! I played it so much, I didn't need the star map, I just remembered where was each star.. oh, those were the days Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2003, 10:05:40 pm »

Of course they tried to overthrow the Ur-Quan after you directed them to.  The Thraddash were so violent that they overthrew themSELVES every few hundred years--so it's not hard to imagine they'd do it to the Ur-Quan, even if they loved being battle thralls.
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2003, 10:09:16 pm »

"roses are red, violets are blue.  When strangers come through here, we run tehm through!"

gotta love Culture 20...

even though you can deal with the Thraddash without talking to them at all, it's more then worth it to become the Great Teacher!

And for the record, yes they attack the Ur-Quan, but they get their butts kicked in rapid order.  Besides, they attack teh Kzer-Za, and its the Kohr-Ah that you need to attack!
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2003, 11:49:53 pm »

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..but they get their butts kicked in rapid order.


As you all know you could get the Utwig and Supox to attack the Kohr-Ah as well.. That is weird though, you could get the Ur-Quan race closer to extinction with just one Jugger (or one Torch even)  Wink   Do alien pilots suck so much or are we Earthlings just that good?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2003, 01:18:07 am »

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gotta love Culture 20...


Thank you.  Oh wait, you mean Thraddash Culture  20.  My Mistake.   Grin
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2003, 02:34:45 am »

LOL!  Well, that would depend, Culture20... I don't know if you're my type or not!
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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2003, 06:46:09 am »

I think you can convince the Traddash to go attack the Korh-Ah.  At one point I suggested they do this to impress their Kzer-za bosses.  They trucked over and did it, but later expressed frustration that both sides fired on them on sight.
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2003, 09:20:09 pm »

Which I found odd, since they ARE Kzer-Za battle thralls. You'd expect the Kzer-Za to just order them to go back. Maybe the Thraddash are leaving that part out...
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2003, 09:40:00 pm »

What? no.. they are "your" thralls now, as you're their new teacher Wink
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2003, 11:58:33 pm »

Well, there's no need to tell the Kzer-Za that...

Anyway, I just thought of something - The Kzer-Za ability to gather battle thralls is a strength that they should bring to the battlefield of the doctrinal war. If their ideology gives them the power to use other species' ships, then that aspect of the ideology should be weighed into account (to the extent that the question should be settled by hurling fiery plasma death at each other, which IMO is not really a very great extent).
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2003, 01:39:02 am »

Yes, the Kzer-Za formed the Hierarchy to fight the Alliance, not the Kohr-Ah. And as soon as they met with their Kohr-Ah brothers, they neglected the thralls (and the slave-shielded races).
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Re: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2003, 01:49:09 am »

I know that was their INTENT... but if their doctrine grants them this power, is it not proper in the contest of arms that this strength be applied?
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