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Topic: Why aren't battle thralls fighting the Kohr-Ah? (Read 61616 times)
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Lukipela
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Possibly the Avats were meant as support troops? Not all chenjesu/Mrnhrm were needed to create the platform perhaps... or the Avatars were meant to be remote cotrolled, like the drones io a beeswarm. The Ur-Quan still have a fleet of Dreadnoughts, they don't rely entirely on the Sa-Matra either.
As for emerging from the planet. No matetr if they just converted the race, or the entire planet, they'd still be inside the slaveshield wouldn't they. so they'd definetly have to emerge.
And likewise, if all they wanted was a new ship, creatinga completley new race is a bit over the edge isn't it? they could just have used their time to research a ship piloted by either of the races, or a team, that was strong enough to defeat the enemy. Of course, every race in Starcon has a ship, and none has two, so it is weirdly logical that for a new ship you'd need a new race, but still...
And the Chmmr isn't in the ship itself no, but the process was interrupted... Maybe they hadn't gotten as far as merging with eachother.
A superpowered Chmmr ship just seems... Well, weird to me. In that case, the cost of even one of these ships would be astronomical, and a fleet of two ships isn't much good is it?
All that said, any theory about what the Chmmr could have been is still just a theory... But it sure is fun speculating : )
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Cyamarin
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The Precursors had two ships. ^_^
In any case, I think the Chmmr DID need to form a new race. I don't think that the problem is that the Chenjesu and Mmrnmhrm needed to combine their talents and create a new ship, I think they knew they wouldn't be able to design a new ship unless they had a whole new way of THINKING about the ship design. The Chenjesu were worried because their culture had stagnated, and they needed some "new blood" to stir things up, and the Mmrnmhrm had no form of reproduction--the forming of a new race had to happen.
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Scott
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The Chmmr you talk to SAYS they had grown stagnant.. so.. yes.
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Deathy
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Avatars as Dreadnought killers (as opposed to Sa-Matra killers) makes sense if you remember that they planned the merging process to take thousands of years. Um, it took thousands of years for Round One of the Doctrinal War to play out, maybe they were banking on the KZ's winning and there being a Round Two.
Otherwise, it makes no sense for you to start a pan-millenial project when you've got just a few decades till anihilation.
I mean, it's not much of a Now and Forever, Eternal thing if you're only going to do it once-and-out, now is it?
This has never made sense. If you and I agree to walk around the galaxy (or planet or merrygoround or imaginary circle) and kill each other next time we meet, we're NOT going to meet where we started, we're going to meet halfway around, on the far side. But KZs and KAs started AND ended at the Sa-Matra. Huh? Did they pass each other peacefully 10,000 years ago on the other side of the galaxy? And if so, who did the KZ's slave-shield on the home stretch? All the races would be wiped out by the KAs on their initial pass. Unless you think a species can evolve from nonsentient critters into a starfaring military power in less than 10,000 years. ( I allow for critters because the KAs must eat something, I don't imagine them being photosynthetic like the Chenjesu. Yep, vicious, sadistic, insane vegan killing machines.)
And if the KAs are wandering around a quadrant that has nothing but impeneterable slave shielded races, I'd think they'd go batshit because they wouldn't be the only living thing left. THEY AUTOMATICALLY LOSE THE WAR. And if they CAN penetrate the slave shield, why aren't you trying to rip off the technology so you can rebuild the Alliance? Isn't that your goal for the first 3/4 of the game?
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Censored
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You're all wrong 
The people on Earth aren't even trying to take down the shield because they know they'll be all anni.. agning.. err, annihilated  if they do. They also don't have any contact with the outside so they have no idea of the New Alliance of Free Stars (or, I should correct myself - The Empire of CENSORED! MAUHAHAHHA... ahem.)
Anyways - you wouldn't take down the shield because you'd be risking your whole race, and besides - what can Cruisers possibly do? scratch the Ur-Quan's butt? 
Don't forget the first time you meet an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za, he (she? hmm, how DO Ur-Quan females look like? in bikini? hehehe) says something like, "how did you escape the slave shield, human? or are you a rogue?"
They don't think that Earth has been liberated, and don't forget they don't have time to mess with this - they're in the middle of the Doctrinal War. About the Kohr-Ah - they don't really care about slave shields. They'd just bombard the planet until everyone dies - they don't support the fallow slave races idea. Or any "races" idea.
Last, the Spathi had over 20 years to figure out how the slave shield works, considering their story (they wished they were encased in a protective shield but the Umgah tricked them with the stick ceremony and all.. you know the story). And besides, I'm sure being combat thralls gave them a bit of advantage regarding the shield's construction and so.
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« Last Edit: February 09, 2003, 10:08:22 pm by Censored »
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"You boldly enter our space! Approach this Dreadnought as though it were a recreation base and then play the dumb hominid?
Who do you take us for, Captain... Spathi!?"
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Krulle
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Probably, they"d have tried too flee (like the Mael-Num/Melnorme). And hoped that they eliminate each other far enough, so that the combined strength of those willing to help could defeat both fleets before they have decided who wins the doctrinal war and is allowed to use the Sa-Matra.
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