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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 09:04:22 pm »

K'tang - useless ships and not very good dialogue (except when they misused words sometimes that was pretty funny)

Speaking of which, if the precursor battleship is equipped with a universal translator then why are the K'Tang misusing words in the first place? You know those guys aren't speaking English to you. Their "crushify" is going to come out of the translator as "crush", it's not as though their slang is as incomprehensible as Orz speak.

It's like talking to a person that speaks Hebrew when you're a gentile.
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 03:08:06 am »

K'tang - useless ships and not very good dialogue (except when they misused words sometimes that was pretty funny)

Speaking of which, if the precursor battleship is equipped with a universal translator then why are the K'Tang misusing words in the first place? You know those guys aren't speaking English to you. Their "crushify" is going to come out of the translator as "crush", it's not as though their slang is as incomprehensible as Orz speak.

Wouldnt a universal translator simply change the words in K'tang for example to human? I don't think the translator can work on what the K'tang meant rather it can only work on what they have actually said. At least thats the impression I got. A universal translator working on every race (well except the Orz) is kinda a dream piece of technology anyway; we have enough trouble translating languages on our own world and most of those come from a common root language, how the hell are we gonna translate words that come from an entirely different base?
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2008, 09:44:23 pm »

I think that the main reason they cut some of the SC2 races was the fact that if they included them they would have had to enlarge the galaxy and also add more races to the Crux to even it out a bit and that was obviously too much work seeing as they barely did all the work for most of the races they did include.
*BZZZZZ* Wrong. They didn't include the SC2 races (or ignored the cannon for established one) because they wanted to write Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III out of the franchise. FF & PR3 owned the characters and setting, basically everything but the words "Star" and "Control" used in conjunction.
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 06:01:22 am »

Speaking of which, if the precursor battleship is equipped with a universal translator then why are the K'Tang misusing words in the first place? You know those guys aren't speaking English to you. Their "crushify" is going to come out of the translator as "crush", it's not as though their slang is as incomprehensible as Orz speak.

Maybe the translator is smart enough to realise that the K'Tang are misusing words in their own language as well?
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 07:47:03 am »

I think that the main reason they cut some of the SC2 races was the fact that if they included them they would have had to enlarge the galaxy and also add more races to the Crux to even it out a bit and that was obviously too much work seeing as they barely did all the work for most of the races they did include.
*BZZZZZ* Wrong. They didn't include the SC2 races (or ignored the cannon for established one) because they wanted to write Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III out of the franchise. FF & PR3 owned the characters and setting, basically everything but the words "Star" and "Control" used in conjunction.

Yeah i guess, i still think they were just too lazy to include them as the rest of the game seems to be very lazily put together and written and if they truly wanted to write them out wouldnt they just leave all the races out or completely bastardise them (okay yes the urquans were bastardised but the rest of the alliance races were fairly true to form)
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 08:43:53 am »

Speaking of which, if the precursor battleship is equipped with a universal translator then why are the K'Tang misusing words in the first place? You know those guys aren't speaking English to you. Their "crushify" is going to come out of the translator as "crush", it's not as though their slang is as incomprehensible as Orz speak.

Maybe the translator is smart enough to realise that the K'Tang are misusing words in their own language as well?

Then it adds to the argument that the K'Tang shouldn't be the main enemies in the game
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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 11:51:15 am »

Yeah i guess, i still think they were just too lazy to include them as the rest of the game seems to be very lazily put together and written and if they truly wanted to write them out wouldnt they just leave all the races out or completely bastardise them (okay yes the urquans were bastardised but the rest of the alliance races were fairly true to form)

If you take into account the un-released SCX, it certainly loosk as if the goal was simply to rewrite the story enough to get rid of all the old races and be free of TFB.

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Then it adds to the argument that the K'Tang shouldn't be the main enemies in the game

I don't know how much we need to spoilerify SC3 here, but oh well.

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Re: What's with all the Starcon3 Hate?
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2008, 11:57:50 am »

Lukipela - regarding your spoiler , the second part of it was pretty much the only nice thing about SC3 plot .
I still like the SC2 main enemies better - it's not at all frequent , when you can easilly relate and even sympatize to the main antagonists' cause.
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