The Ur-Quan Masters Home Page Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
December 06, 2024, 12:47:29 pm
Home Help Search Login Register
News: Celebrating 30 years of Star Control 2 - The Ur-Quan Masters

+  The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum
|-+  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release
| |-+  General UQM Discussion (Moderator: Death 999)
| | |-+  Comprehensive star system list?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Comprehensive star system list?  (Read 3590 times)
locustkiller
Zebranky food
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 12



View Profile
Comprehensive star system list?
« on: September 30, 2008, 10:52:52 pm »

This is the kind of thing i like to do. Maybe its a completist thing or a touch of OCD.

i started charting in game star systems info after discovering UQM but before seeing these boards.

Does anyone already have a link to a spreadsheet or list of stars? The info i use includes weather, tectonics and temperature- to determine whether or not you can reliably gather minerals there pre-souped up landers.   Any events that occur at that planet. Occupations, homeworlds and the mineral /biological/ technological items available there.

Logged
chenjesummrnmhrm
Zebranky food
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 30



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 11:51:22 pm »

There is a mineral map that shows the approximate mineral value of each star system

http://starcontrol.classicgaming.gamespy.com/sc2/maps5.shtml
Logged
psydev
*Many bubbles*
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 136


Why don't all races have point defense lasers?


View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 01:56:30 am »

I know this is not likely to be included in the 1.0 release version of UQM but personall I think it would be really cool if the starmap supported the mouse. You could then mouseover star systems and it would show you hot hot the star is and how many minerals are in it. It could perhaps also show roughly how rich each planet is in the system. I know some might object to this, saying that it would take away the "exploration" feature of the game. However, it would make some canonical sense, given that the Humans would undoubtedly have explored, at the very least, the star systems in their sphere of influence and beyond, and have a rough guage of how mineral rich those planets were. The Chenjesu were also known to have been avid explorers and to have travelled very far throughout known space; they would likely have scanned almost every map in the area. (You'll note that on the official starmap the Druuge and Thraddash spheres are listed as "unknown", so the Chenjesu almost certainly travelled that far). They would have also likely shared all that map data with their Alliance counterparts, so that data should be theoretically available. Also, since the Starbase is an Ur-Quan facility, it would presumably have some planetary data for Hierarchy use.
Logged
meep-eep
Forum Admin
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2847



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 08:38:33 am »

locustkiller: We don't have a list with the exact information you want, but it's easy enough to generate automatically from the game itself. Do you have any experience with C?
Logged

“When Juffo-Wup is complete
when at last there is no Void, no Non
when the Creators return
then we can finally rest.”
locustkiller
Zebranky food
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 12



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2008, 08:37:02 am »

no experience making spreadsheets or anything. i was just asking, because after i found UQM of course the first thing i did was get a blank notebook to completely chart all the systems for any of my future runs thru the game.  i like doing things like that, its a little OCD and a little completist, but there ya go.

Anyway i only got about 15% of the way thru when game events started spiraling out of control --- and i remembered that there is a game time limit ( seriously, who doesnt just get lost in the sailing the ship around with half a dozen storage bays to fill up with minerals?)

Then i found this message board, and figured if you guys already have a comprehensive system chart, then  i shouldnt waste my time, but if you dont id love to contribute to it.
Logged
meep-eep
Forum Admin
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2847



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2008, 12:06:27 pm »

I once had the game generate this list. If you want it in a different form, or if you want some additional data, I can regenerate a new list quite easilly.
Logged

“When Juffo-Wup is complete
when at last there is no Void, no Non
when the Creators return
then we can finally rest.”
Shiver
Guest


Email
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2008, 01:18:32 pm »

I once had the game generate this list. If you want it in a different form, or if you want some additional data, I can regenerate a new list quite easilly.


Additional data request: Have it tally the total minerals and biologicals for an entire system before listing each of the planets. Anyone can do this chore themself, of course. If you have a script that does this automatically it's better to use that.
Logged
Resh Aleph
*Smell* controller
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 319


Rottem Tomatoes


View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2008, 03:10:40 pm »

Speaking of such lists (I have something against starting a new thread), has anyone ever made a textual list of all ship stats (including mass)?
Logged

Marines on Maulers and limpets on Earthlings  /  Bright Podship plasma and warm Kohr-Ah death rings  /
Shofixti Scouts doing gravity whips  /  These are a few of my favorite ships!
       © meep-eep
meep-eep
Forum Admin
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2847



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2008, 03:23:33 pm »

Shiver: I made a separate list with the value of the minerals and bio in the second and third column. This one should be easy to import in spreadsheats and such.
download
Logged

“When Juffo-Wup is complete
when at last there is no Void, no Non
when the Creators return
then we can finally rest.”
Shiver
Guest


Email
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2008, 03:59:03 pm »

Shiver: I made a separate list with the value of the minerals and bio in the second and third column. This one should be easy to import in spreadsheats and such.
download

Thanks. I never knew about Beta Scorpii trumping Delta Tauri in minerals. On the other hand, it looks like the player would have to pick up commons / corrosives / base metals to actually break Delta Tauri's value. Not sure about this.

LOL at Alpha Sagittae and Beta Viriginis.
Logged
Valaggar Redux
Guest


Email
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2008, 04:07:09 pm »

Speaking of such lists (I have something against starting a new thread), has anyone ever made a textual list of all ship stats (including mass)?

Yes, Mr. Ultronomicon has (or rather, me, Fyzixfighter and Zeracles have). See the ship pages and Table of ship properties.
Logged
meep-eep
Forum Admin
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2847



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2008, 04:13:33 pm »

BTW. The top 20s for minerals and bio from that resource list I just posted can also be found in the SC2 resource guide.
Logged

“When Juffo-Wup is complete
when at last there is no Void, no Non
when the Creators return
then we can finally rest.”
Cedric6014
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 701



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 10:59:08 am »

I just sorted the systems by mineral value from top to bottom. I then graphed it.

It creates a near perfect distribution curve. Same with the Bio actually.

Meep Eep: What method did they use to allocate minerals and Bio amongst the systems?
« Last Edit: October 06, 2008, 11:01:23 am by Cedric6014 » Logged

Play online melee here! http://irc.uqm.stack.nl/
meep-eep
Forum Admin
Enlightened
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2847



View Profile
Re: Comprehensive star system list?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 12:09:09 pm »

See this page on the Ultronomicon.
Logged

“When Juffo-Wup is complete
when at last there is no Void, no Non
when the Creators return
then we can finally rest.”
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!