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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2008, 10:31:50 pm »

Rome is an interesting comparison, but I will address one of the points you make:

ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE: Rome didn't start facing this sort of trouble for several hundred years, but America has only been around for 230 years and is already facing this trouble!

Rome was a Republic (and a monarchy) long before it turned into an empire. The Republic faced LOADS of problems, including civil wars, political instability, and the sack of Rome itself at the hands of foreign invaders. The Romans were notoriously resilient in overcoming these sort of calamities, and their resiliency was arguably their greatest strength.

Things are pretty down for the US right now, to be sure. Not quite as bad as the Republic, IMO, but it remains to be seen how resilient the US is in the coming years.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 01:17:16 am »

and America has one or two more people... might result in a downfall rather faster. Not that I'm wishing it upon them.

Rome did ruin its environment but it was on a so much smaller scale it didn't really make much difference on the world scale. Stuff like clealing land, just not as massive as we do it now and I mean its kinda hard for one million people to live in Rome and not do any damage. Not to mention the technological advancements since then.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 01:26:38 am »

I don't see us as having any of the problems that Rome faced, period.

We may be a global empire, but we don't try to rule directly, and we don't rule locally. There is no vaguely convenient road back from our held territories to our home territory. We simply can't be invaded, except through two countries we are and will be for the forseeable future friendly with. The populace of America is generally very happy to be American. There are a few exceptions, but it's a tiny minority of a very few tiny minorities.

Further, we are insulated somewhat from catastrophic leaders by our structure. Rome had a lot of doozies before it went down.

As for the environment... If that's why we fall, everyone's in trouble.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 01:29:11 am »

Convient road block...... sniffs of oil
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2008, 09:32:30 pm »

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1. It's good to be American, it was good to be Roman
2. Inflation, just like the Romans
3. Huge military vs huge military
4. Both are/were military-based
5. America is hated by most of the world, just like Rome was
6. America has corrupt leaders, so did Rome
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1. yeah, but why it's good to be both is very different, and for the most part it's much worse to be a Roman

2.  As was said, inflation isn't unique to America and Rome. Other countries have suffered way more from inflation.

5. America really isn't hated by most of the world
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2008, 11:41:16 pm »

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This sounds so weird to me. We recently had our council elections, and only one party sent me any post. Pretty much the same for our parliament elections last year.  Sure, there are some peopel in the streets handing out flyers and posters on buses and stuff, but very little seems to be sent home around here. That kind of constant barrage would have driven me nuts.

Still, I guess it payed off for you guys. Or at least it seems that way, but I suppose we won't know in a while eh?

I sure hope so. Many people here seem to think Obama is the second coming of christ or there about. To me it would seem he has more pressure and expectation pressed upon him than is realistic. However, It is encouraging to see such favorable international reactions to his election.

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 06:04:03 am »

I sure hope so. Many people here seem to think Obama is the second coming of christ or there about. To me it would seem he has more pressure and expectation pressed upon him than is realistic.

Yeah, the expectations seem a bit too high. Being in the middle of an economic crisis will probably limit his options quite a bit.

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However, It is encouraging to see such favorable international reactions to his election.

Don't count on that lasting too long though. The Europeans may be all gung ho about him now, but as soon as they figure out that he isn't going to do everything exactly as they think it should be done those reactions are going to cool down. For some reasons a lot of people here perceive Obama as a president of the world rather than president of the US. Once it turns out that he (naturally) looks out for his own country first and foremost I suspect a lot of people here will start blathering about american cultural dominance and all the usual talking points.

Don't get me wrong, I'm think he looks poised to do a lot of good for both the US  and the rest of the world. But some people around here act as if he's going to change the US in the Europe 2 just because.
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2008, 10:57:17 am »

So RTyp06, feeling happy now that your favourite gal might become foreign minister?
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2008, 11:09:03 pm »

So RTyp06, feeling happy now that your favourite gal might become foreign minister?

I don't know where this "favorite gal" came from but then again you always seem to post with a flair for the dramatic. Wink Early in the democratic campaign I knew virtually nothing about Obama and simply thought Hillary, who is a well known figure and seemingly far more experienced, had a better chance at winning the election. I thought the republicans would tear Obama a new one and that the popularity of the Clintons would win the day.

I am gald to see Obama reaching out to his former opponents. If anything, I feel hopeful.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2008, 06:26:24 am »


I don't know where this "favorite gal" came from but then again you always seem to post with a flair for the dramatic. Wink

Well, you did argue for her here, which led me to assume that she was your favourite candidate in the primaries. And she is a woman. Have I succesfully explained both "favourite" and "gal"? Onward then. Thus, it'd seem to be a logical conclusion that you'd feel glad that the presidential candidate you originally supported (your favourite candidate in the primaries) is included in your goverments cabinet, and on a pretty important post as well.  But what do I know, I'm just needlessy dramatizing current events in the current events topic. I'll rephrase it in the most PC of ways to not offend you further:

"So RTyp06, isn't it nice that your previously preferred presidential candidate looks set to get an important post in the new goverment?"

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I am gald to see Obama reaching out to his former opponents. If anything, I feel hopeful.

I agree. So far it seems that his message on healing the party and the country is working well. The Clintons do have some solid economic knowledge, it's be silly not to use it.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2008, 02:51:52 am »

 
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But what do I know, I'm just needlessy dramatizing current events in the current events topic. I'll rephrase it in the most PC of ways to not offend you further:

Nah, I wasn't offended in the least. I knew what you meant. Besides I really do like both Hillary and Obama. I hope they actually listen to other countries and stop this alienating of the U.S.
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