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Re-First game
« on: January 01, 2009, 10:05:53 pm »

I just yesterday tried to simulate a first game in UQM. It was hard, and I ultimately failed. (I used my knowledge to go to Alpha Cerenkov and find ZEX Sad)

What I tried to do was make it seem real. I was only acting on:
1. Knowledge of the races, their positions in SC1, etc.
2. Information I was told

Because I am lazy, I also used EP's mod to start the game with 1,000,000 RU. (Big mistake)

Here's the result (CONTAINS SPOILERS):
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I just really wish i could play the game fresh again. That could be quickly accomplished just by mixing things up a bit, moving stuff around, changing quests slightly, etc. Not extreme changes, just enough so that knowledge of the normal game doesn't help too much. (Except alien behavior...)
On that topic, how hard would it be to sort of shuffle the stars? (Same exact positions/names, but for example Alpha Centauri could end up becoming what is now Betelgeuse, or maybe it could end up as what is now Zeta Persei) I am also referring to behavior of the stars as well as what minerals are there.
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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2009, 05:31:35 am »

Checking out the allies, I figured, would be one of the main things to do. In my fanfic, I considered what someone who was paying *very* close attention and had access to the map that came with the game, but did not have spoileriffic information, would do. Before the first chapter, Zelnick had already visited most alliance species -  Shofixti, Chenjesu/Mmrnmhrm, and Arilou; and had heard about the Pkunk from the starting Ilwrath captain, and visited them; and of course with Fwiffo on board, he had contacted the Spathi.

Being cautious and initially weak, he hadn't sought the Yehat, nor even made contact with any of the battle thralls except the Mycon and the Ilwrath; furthermore, he had incorrectly figured that the Syreen were more closely guarded, being on the doorstep of the Ur-Quan and more liable to be inspected.
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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 06:31:54 am »

I just yesterday tried to simulate a first game in UQM. It was hard, and I ultimately failed. (I used my knowledge to go to Alpha Cerenkov and find ZEX Sad)

What I tried to do was make it seem real. I was only acting on:
1. Knowledge of the races, their positions in SC1, etc.
2. Information I was told

Because I am lazy, I also used EP's mod to start the game with 1,000,000 RU. (Big mistake)

Here's the result (CONTAINS SPOILERS):
(click to show/hide)

I just really wish i could play the game fresh again. That could be quickly accomplished just by mixing things up a bit, moving stuff around, changing quests slightly, etc. Not extreme changes, just enough so that knowledge of the normal game doesn't help too much. (Except alien behavior...)
On that topic, how hard would it be to sort of shuffle the stars? (Same exact positions/names, but for example Alpha Centauri could end up becoming what is now Betelgeuse, or maybe it could end up as what is now Zeta Persei) I am also referring to behavior of the stars as well as what minerals are there.
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Start a new ( Clean game)  Go to earth .. listen to  Captain Hayes..  Go to Pluto and safe Fwiffo..
I kept Fwiffo alive in a Spathi eluder  even with all thoose Chmrrr ships and the  Utwig Bom ...
I just could not live with myzelf in the game lossing him.

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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 02:11:50 am »

He knows what to do. The problem is, he knows what to do. See?
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 07:57:07 pm »

Checking out the allies, I figured, would be one of the main things to do. In my fanfic, I considered what someone who was paying *very* close attention and had access to the map that came with the game, but did not have spoileriffic information, would do. Before the first chapter, Zelnick had already visited most alliance species -  Shofixti, Chenjesu/Mmrnmhrm, and Arilou; and had heard about the Pkunk from the starting Ilwrath captain, and visited them; and of course with Fwiffo on board, he had contacted the Spathi.

Being cautious and initially weak, he hadn't sought the Yehat, nor even made contact with any of the battle thralls except the Mycon and the Ilwrath; furthermore, he had incorrectly figured that the Syreen were more closely guarded, being on the doorstep of the Ur-Quan and more liable to be inspected.

Interestingly enough, the first time I played, the very first species I met (besides Ilwrath) was the Pkunk. I found them while mining for minerals.
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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 05:06:49 pm »

My first outing had me pursuing the Spathi first, since they are one of the 2 spheres visible by doing everything you can in Sol. From there, I sort of blundered into the Orz while mining, followed up on Hayes' message about Rigel to find the ZFP, and randomly found the Pkunk by flying into the corner for no real apparent reason. From there, I tended to rely on a combination of tips and info from the Melnorme to keep moving forward... until a friend started spoiling things with a walkthrough he found. Bleh.
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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 09:34:12 pm »

I feel bad that I finished this game.  Like... yeah, I wish I could play it again with the same sense of "Dude, this is freakin' awesome!"  Alas, I'm stuck with the occasional Super Melee.
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Re: Re-First game
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 08:57:01 pm »

On that topic, how hard would it be to sort of shuffle the stars? (Same exact positions/names, but for example Alpha Centauri could end up becoming what is now Betelgeuse, or maybe it could end up as what is now Zeta Persei) I am also referring to behavior of the stars as well as what minerals are there.

No clue how hard it would be to do, but it would be awesome to see finished.  Where's that Precursor "Mind blank" artifact I had lying around....
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