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Re: Mysteries of the Star Control Universe... theories much appreciated!
« Reply #150 on: July 06, 2009, 05:36:20 pm »

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I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Deep Children, which are not Mycon; rather, they are tools used to create an ideal environment for the Mycon. So no, I don't think the Mycon could do that.

EDIT: I don't think they would do that anyways, because they would want to destroy the Kohr-Ah, not just hide and let them pass over.

I'm pretty sure that the Deep Children, Mycon and their Spaceships are all subspecies of the same thing.

IDK- I think the Mycon will do anything for self preservation and  continuation, it is in their psychological profile.

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<Fwiffo> The Mycon were biological tools of the Precursors. They had been programmed for terraforming, but when the Precursors vanished, the Mycons were left unattended. Over the following millenia, their programs drifted, forming the worship of Juffo-Wup.

The Deep Child is a specialized, genetically engineered Mycon spore pod.

I am Dugee
I am the purity monitor
I choose what buds are permitted to mature
and which must be eradicated

Your simple sexual process produces random mosaics of genetic instructions
yet with the simplicity of breath, I modify my own patterns
You humans improve a tool and double your capabilities
We Mycon improve ourselves and increase a thousand-fold.
 

This slew of quotes says a few things. Primarily that there is no racial distinction between the Children and the Mycon.
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Re: Mysteries of the Star Control Universe... theories much appreciated!
« Reply #151 on: July 06, 2009, 08:52:03 pm »

Therefore, I think they would more likely join the Kohr-Ah and wait for them to show their weakness, and then strike. After all, the Kohr-Ah do mention that they don't destroy races that promise to annihilate all intelligent life, including themselves. The Mycon could agree to this, and then attack the Kohr-Ah when they are weakest (meaning they would actually betray their promise to destroy themselves). Conveniently, the doctrinal war would provide such an opportunity.
Where do the Kohr-Ah say this? I don't think the Mycon would try to join the Kohr-Ah, simply because it would probably destroy them.
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Re: Mysteries of the Star Control Universe... theories much appreciated!
« Reply #152 on: July 07, 2009, 01:13:01 am »

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If you eliminate all non-Ur-Quan sentient races, including yourselves
then we will stop.
We have made this offer before. No one accepts.
So we cleanse.

The Mycon will willingly submit themselves to anybody if they think they can find an advantage later (as per their introduction into the hierarchy), and the Kohr-Ah are receptive to the idea under the above conditions.

Mycon may not feign death, but their ungrown spores in shattered worlds as well as the deep children may go unnoticed.
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Re: Mysteries of the Star Control Universe... theories much appreciated!
« Reply #153 on: July 07, 2009, 05:14:18 am »

Ah, okay. So the may join then.

If the Deep Children spawn the more conventional Mycon, they may even follow that agreement to the letter, except for a few Deep Children inserted into a few planets to keep their race alive.
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« Reply #154 on: July 07, 2009, 04:07:14 pm »

This is silly. The Kohr-Ah make that offer expecting rejection, so that they may cleanse. But they wouldn't seriously ally with anyone. If the Mycon "accepted" the Kohr-Ah's "alliance proposal," their first and only assigned task would be to cleanse themselves. When they inevitably refused, the Kohr-Ah would simply do what they were unwilling to.

Really, do you think the most coldly logical and genocidal race in the galaxy would be that gullible?
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Re: Mysteries of the Star Control Universe... theories much appreciated!
« Reply #155 on: July 07, 2009, 06:52:36 pm »

This is silly. The Kohr-Ah make that offer expecting rejection, so that they may cleanse. But they wouldn't seriously ally with anyone. If the Mycon "accepted" the Kohr-Ah's "alliance proposal," their first and only assigned task would be to cleanse themselves. When they inevitably refused, the Kohr-Ah would simply do what they were unwilling to.

Really, do you think the most coldly logical and genocidal race in the galaxy would be that gullible?

Coldly logical? I don't know about that. The Ur-Quans are fairly passionate about what they do and they KNOW that the logic behind their doctrines aren't that great (the Kohr-Ah volunteer that the eternal doctrine is a paradox).

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Human. We Ur-Quan never lie. NEVER!
It is a weakness to lie and, as you have noticed, the Ur-Quan are not weak!
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« Reply #156 on: July 08, 2009, 04:01:52 pm »

Nonetheless, asking the Mycon to cleanse themselves as their first and only task really doesn't construe lying.

Maybe logical was the wrong choice of word, though within the Kohr-Ah's twisted worldview, everything they do is perfectly logical.
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