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What is your stance on sadomasochism?
| Sadistic people should go to ****! What is wrong with their minds?! |
| I don't see a problem with it. It's not like they will actually hurt someone. |
| I'm against it, but I guess they really don't have a choice. |
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Topic: Sadomasochism (sadistic people) (Read 10060 times)
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UAF
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So the poll is about the sexual habit, or the mental disorder that get people hurt badly against their will?
Because I'm find with badly hurting people against their will, but I'm against consensual sexual activities that are not the most basic form of intercourse and are aimed for procreation.
And for those who don't get it when I'm joking (there are always a few of those around) - I'm fine with people doing whatever they want with eachother as long as both parties want it and no one ends in the hospital.
I'm against harming people against their will. Or even harming people when they do want it (and I mean injury causing, not some hot candle wax games that they enjoy).
So right now I still don't know how to vote. Need clarification,
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So the poll is about the sexual habit, or the mental disorder that get people hurt badly against their will?
Because I'm find with badly hurting people against their will, but I'm against consensual sexual activities that are not the most basic form of intercourse and are aimed for procreation.
And for those who don't get it when I'm joking (there are always a few of those around) - I'm fine with people doing whatever they want with eachother as long as both parties want it and no one ends in the hospital.
I'm against harming people against their will. Or even harming people when they do want it (and I mean injury causing, not some hot candle wax games that they enjoy).
So right now I still don't know how to vote. Need clarification,
Since I said sadomasochism and not just sadism, I meant the sexual one.
You know, I once stumbled across a funny person who thought he was sadistic. He said something along the lines of:
"I'm sadistic. So why am I sadistic? It's easy! People abuse me alot! So I just want to see people suffer, because I hate them! That's why I hurt people!"
That isn't sadism. What he described (and I might have not replicated it well, because I read it weeks ago) was something that sounded more like a hatred of people than a satisfaction on the infliction of pain on others. The one thing that I liked was commenters were ridiculing the clueless guy's words, though they didn't exactly understand either, saying stuff like, "If ur sadistic u should enjoy being abused! All of them r like that!" That particular person was talking about the link of sadism to masochism and in a sense is right, except that masochists don't generally like it if they are truly abused, raped, etc because they are no longer in control. This might seem like a paradox, but it's how it works. In BDSM, while the masochist (submissive) is succumbing to the sadist (dominant), the submissive was able to make the choice to do it, rather than being forced into it. Now I should stop ranting, before my paragraph starts getting into too many different topics at once. Point is, I don't think people fully understand what sadomasochism is.
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The poll's first option says "sadistic people" which was a bit confusing.
Anyway I voted now (second option).
As for what you said. I think people sometimes confuse fantasies (sexual and other) with what people really want to HAPPEN.
For example, fantasizing about something horrible happening to someone you hate does NOT mean you really want it to happen to him.
Same goes to all types of fantasies, including the sexual ones.
Same in the case of BDSM, I assume (and I should mention that everything I say here is IMO and I'm no expert). One fantasises about raping or abusing, the other fantasises about being in the reciving ends. It does not mean that they want it to happen for real.
P.S - no time for spell checking, sorry if it shows...
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The poll's first option says "sadistic people" which was a bit confusing.
Anyway I voted now (second option).
As for what you said. I think people sometimes confuse fantasies (sexual and other) with what people really want to HAPPEN.
For example, fantasizing about something horrible happening to someone you hate does NOT mean you really want it to happen to him.
Same goes to all types of fantasies, including the sexual ones.
Same in the case of BDSM, I assume (and I should mention that everything I say here is IMO and I'm no expert). One fantasises about raping or abusing, the other fantasises about being in the reciving ends. It does not mean that they want it to happen for real.
P.S - no time for spell checking, sorry if it shows...
You have the right idea. BDSM is a complex acronym that stands for: BD (Bondage & Discipline) DS (Dominance & Submission) and SM (Sadism & Masochism). You can see there's nothing about being forced to do something (i.e. rape), it is more like roleplaying, where one partner voluntarily gives up control (because of being a masochist, and gaining satisfaction from being "controlled"). The other partner then becomes "dominant" over the submissive in the roleplay scenario. On the other hand, rape is different: One person, for whatever reason (maybe they're mentally challenged), forces his will upon someone who did not consent, and it becomes real, not roleplay. A perfect analogy is war-based video games. Just because you enjoy playing these games doesn't mean you would want to fight for real.
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That's sort of what option 2 is for. Option 1 is against, option 2 is for, and option 3 is indifferent.
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SOunds mostly like schadenfreude, though. Happiness in the misfortune of others, indeed.
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