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Re: Global Warming Denialist
« Reply #150 on: January 17, 2010, 01:30:42 pm »

And as people commit suicide, die in accident or something else, population begins falling. In the end, our race vanishes from the world. Still, it does solve the Earths problems.

You make it sound as if saving the Earth is an altruistic act. It's just as selfish as everything else we do, really. Tongue

Also, if the population gets too small, we could always create a new wave of children, which would be a fun adventure for us million-year-olds. Cheesy

Also, I don't see why science couldn't fix suicide and accidents some day. It's magic.
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« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2010, 03:45:09 pm »

Hello, just wondering if any of you have encountered this movement before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I actually know one or two people who've signed on to this.

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« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2010, 10:56:35 pm »

Humans could quite possibly spread the life of this planet to the many dead worlds out there. If the idea is to ensure the survival of life, long term, then humans could arguably offer a rare chance to do that. We could build seed ships (like in Songs of a distant Earth). We can also blow up dangerous asteroids with our giant moon laser / brave self-sacrificing astronauts.
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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2010, 12:56:53 am »

We humans have only been on this earth for around 100k years or so. This is an Infinitesimal amount of time in the vast history of the earth. I'm sure she's seen far worse than us humans. Her delicate eco systems have been upset many, many times before us. And she'll be there long after we're gone.
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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2010, 02:01:04 am »

Speaking of extreme climates, I saw a Science channel show on snowball earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
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« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2010, 09:45:29 am »

After a few asteroids, megavolcanic eruptions, and the like, I doubt humanity's going to be more than a blip in the charts.
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« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2010, 01:52:12 pm »

The sun is getting larger and hotter. Some speculate that land life emerged only some 1 billion years ago because it was too cold before. In another one billion years it will be much too hot. So we landlubbers really only have a 2 billion year window, if things go their 'natural' course. Of course, in the far future the outer planets in the solar system will be hotter and maybe terraform-able.

I don't think the Earth has seen anything like us humans before. We a potential unlike that of any other creature of the past. We could arguably evolve into a form which enables us to go Type III and milk the stars for energy/matter for countless billions of years. This makes us more than a blip on an insignificant planet. It makes us a slightly larger galactic blip in mindbogglingly vast universe.

We also have the potential to completely sterilize the Earth with technomagic like grey goo.

It's very difficult to even try and predict 100 years into our future. That says something about our potential. A moth was still a moth 100 years ago. We learned to fly, sent a man to the moon, invented wireless global communication, and sucked up half of the world's oil deposits.
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« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2010, 04:33:42 pm »

It could be the indirect solution to everything. Science makes us immortal, gives us robots to explore the universe, no need for more people. Sterilise everyone, population growth halts, fornicate till the end of time.

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And as people commit suicide, die in accident or something else, population begins falling. In the end, our race vanishes from the world. Still, it does solve the Earths problems.
Survival of the risk-averse. In a few decades the outdoors will be the new wilderness. Can't say the sort of misery that drives people to suicide will have gone, but there'll be robots who won't let us do it.

The sun is getting larger and hotter. Some speculate that land life emerged only some 1 billion years ago because it was too cold before. In another one billion years it will be much too hot.
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« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2010, 05:36:25 pm »

Survival of the risk-averse. In a few decades the outdoors will be the new wilderness. Can't say the sort of misery that drives people to suicide will have gone, but there'll be robots who won't let us do it.

Man, who cares about global warming? That's a seriously scary scenario. We'd be unable to die and forcibly kept alive by the very tools we created. Every time we try to end the curse our prolonged existence had become, there's be a friendly robot there to stop us and strap us back in our safe and comfy chairs. An eternity of being safe and totally unharmed is a Spathi dream come true, but it sure isn't mine.
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« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2010, 05:55:53 pm »

. . . says the leader of the suicide squad.
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« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2010, 08:36:44 pm »

. . . says the leader of the suicide squad.

... are you accusing me of being biased? Me? The leader of the Carebear squad? How dare you sir I'm going to have to give you a hug.
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« Reply #161 on: January 20, 2010, 01:08:33 pm »

It's all covered under my... THE master plan.
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Re: Global Warming Denialist
« Reply #162 on: February 04, 2010, 01:18:39 am »

Apparently the IPCC isn't too concerned about representing actual facts in its reports.

From: http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg2/en/ch12s12-2-3.html
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The Netherlands is an example of a country highly susceptible to both sea-level rise and river flooding because 55% of its territory is below sea level where 60% of its population lives and 65% of its Gross National Product (GNP) is produced.

This is bullshit. Actually, about 1/5th of the Netherlands is below sea level and about 19% of the GNP is produced there.
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Re: Global Warming Denialist
« Reply #163 on: February 04, 2010, 01:55:43 am »

Maybe the are using the height of another sea, lets say Lake Titicaca?
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Re: Global Warming Denialist
« Reply #164 on: February 14, 2010, 06:25:14 pm »

It seems that someone had too much free time...

http://climatequotes.com/scientists/the-ipccs-questionable-citations/
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