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Resh Aleph
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The story so far:
I'm wondering what fraction of the distance from the galactic center to the rim does the SC2 starmap cover.
Edit: Also I found this from Valaggar on the Ultronomicon: The galaxy has a diameter of at least 27646 standard HyperSpace distance units and a circumference of at least 86808 distance units.
Edit 2: if it takes 100 fuel to go from the top of the starmap to the bottom of the starmap, and if there is ten distance units in each unit of fuel, then the starmap is 1000 distance units wide. That makes it that the starmap is 1/27 the distance from rim to rim, or 1/14 the distance from the galactic center to the rim.
Ah, but corewards is NE, so you want the diagonal distance. Fortunately pythagorus steps in here.
distance (corner to corner) = sqrt(h^2 + w^2) = sqrt(1000000 + 1000000) = sqrt(2000000) = 1 414.21356
27646/1.414 = 19.5516266
So more like a 20th of the diameter.
So more like a 20th of the diameter.
Makes you wonder why it took the Ur-Quan thousands of years to get here.
They were taking the circular route. Now for that, we want the circumference. We're about in the middle, so let's assume that the diameter of our 'circle' is 13823, exactly half of the galaxy's 'real' diameter. So for the circular route, C=pi x d, so C=13823pi. Feed that into google and we get...
43 426.2353
Now 43426/27646 is about 1.6, so there's your answer. They took thousands and thousands of years to get here because they were going possibly1 and a half times the galaxy's diameter, stopping every few years for a quick war.
Actually, according to these numbers, the galaxy's "size" is about 600 million units, and each region like ours is 1 million units. So if both Ur-Quan stayed in each region for 66 years on average, it would take about 20,000 years to cover the entire galaxy. (2*20000/66 = 606)
66 years seems way too high an average...
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CelticMinstrel
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Does that mesh with the dates of the Sentient Milieu?
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Death 999
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The numbers don't add up anyway, for the simple reason that the Taalo lived near here. Unless the Dnyarri slave empire oversaw a terrible contraction in the population of even the slaves and an even greater loss in propulsion technology, there's no way they'd come over here to wipe out the Taalo (though the Taalo *slid* away or whatever).
On this subject, I'm mystified.
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Draxas
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66 years seems way too high an average...
Actually, it doesn't seem all that unreasonable. Consider that the first war takes place from ~2112-2134, that's 22 years battling against an alliance of 7 species in our quadrant, which the Ur-Quan ended prematurely through use of the Sa-Matra against Procyon instead of using their typical, deliberate conquest. Once the Alliance was defeated, they also neglected to continue their conquest of the sector, instead retreating to Crateris in order to regroup for the coming Doctrinal War. Had they not had an urgent timetable with the advancing Kohr-Ah, they would have defeated the Alliance the old fashioned way and pacified the rest of the races in the sector (presumably, including their own battle thralls once everyone else was slave shielded and they were preparing to leave). I'd say 60+ years is not an unreasonable timetable for that. Other sectors could have mustered alliances twice as large, perhaps, or perhaps had fewer races willing to become battle thralls, forcing the Ur-Quan to fight alone.
The Kohr-Ah... Well, let's just say that they're really thorough.
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So, if the Ur-Quan started travelling one way around the galady, and the Kohr-Ah started travelling the other way, expecting to meet again, does this mean that Sol is roughtly on the opposite side of the galaxy from where the first doctrinal war began? And does this also mean that everything on one side of the galaxy has been enslaved, while everything on the other side has been annigilated?
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CelticMinstrel
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The numbers don't add up anyway, for the simple reason that the Taalo lived near here. Unless the Dnyarri slave empire oversaw a terrible contraction in the population of even the slaves and an even greater loss in propulsion technology, there's no way they'd come over here to wipe out the Taalo (though the Taalo *slid* away or whatever).
On this subject, I'm mystified.
So, from that, we know it's possible to cross the galaxy in a reasonable time-frame. However, that would presumably mean travelling along the diameter. The Ur-Quan, on the other hand, are traversing the circumference, so they have over 6 times the distance to travel... plus, they're engaging in wars, and travelling radially in order to cover all worlds that support life. This applies to the Kohr-Ah, too.
So, if the Ur-Quan started travelling one way around the galady, and the Kohr-Ah started travelling the other way, expecting to meet again, does this mean that Sol is roughtly on the opposite side of the galaxy from where the first doctrinal war began? And does this also mean that everything on one side of the galaxy has been enslaved, while everything on the other side has been annigilated?
Essentially, yes... though, it's possible that the Kzer-Za did not make it half-way around the galaxy, and in fact more than half has been stripped of sentient life.
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