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« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2010, 11:34:58 pm »

this morning I heard on NPR about this guy with Haemophilia, they came out with a drug that would have him clot in hours instead of days, and he maxed out his coverage cap in 2 years. He's changed insurers 5 times since then. Obama is passing a bill to get rid of the cap.
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2010, 11:45:22 am »

why are these nuts worshiping Regan and not say i don't know Lincoln ya know the guy who ended slavery.
Reagan was the first true conservative in American politics in the modern era.  He created many traditional mindsets that still exist.

Lincoln was a pseudo-socialist despot.  He suspended habeas corpus, had legislatures arrested just incase they might even think about seceding, sought to control the press, etc.  The biggest fallacy about the man is that he "freed the slaves".  He did nothing of the sort.  The Emancipation Proclamation only declared the elimination of slavery in States currently in an act of rebellion against the Federal Government.  Basically, the President of the United States of America ordered the freedom of the slaves in the independent Confederate States of America.  It was a political maneuver, nothing more.  He wanted to encourage slaves to rebel against their masters.

Meanwhile, there were slaves still in the United States...

As for the Tea Party, the "tea" part stands for Taxed Enough Already.  They support devolved government (more power to local and state government rather than Federal), lower taxes, etc.  Certainly nothing wrong with that.  Strong Federal/Weak State vs Weak Federal/Strong State has been an argument that's been fought over since before the Declaration of Independence was written!
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« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2010, 04:14:25 pm »

hmm, I have to pay around E110,- per month for health insurance. Which is pretty much. Next year it will be E120 each month. But coverage is generally quite good.
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« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2010, 05:37:34 pm »

Taxes went up under Reagan. The defict soared under Reagan. Regan got hired by pandering to the religious right. Remember the "moral majority"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

For Bush it was the Christian Coalition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Coalition_of_America

The Tea Party is is pretty much the same thing with Glenn Beck, Rush, and Sarah Palin leading the cause. We're not seeing anything new here other than a slight downplay of the religious component. They pander to the religious right and are backed by corporate billionaires. The Tea Party are mainly scared, devoutly religious white folks that see Obama as a black muslim.
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2010, 06:20:54 am »

Obama as a black muslim.

black non-american muslim. On a related note, I went to the rally to restore sanity this past weekend, it was quite nice.
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« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2010, 05:25:07 pm »

Nice. I watched the rally on Comedy Central. I read an estimated ~200k people showed up.

Recently I picked up "Earth (the book) A Visitor's Guide to the Human Race" put out by Jon Stewart and the Daily Shiow team. It's witty and hilarious.
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« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2010, 08:39:06 pm »

Basically, the President of the United States of America ordered the freedom of the slaves in the independent Confederate States of America.  It was a political maneuver, nothing more.  He wanted to encourage slaves to rebel against their masters.

It did have the immediate effect of freeing those slaves in occupied territory, whose status was previously undetermined; and of course as they captured more territory, the number of freed slaves rose drastically.
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« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2011, 12:49:02 am »

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As for the Tea Party, the "tea" part stands for Taxed Enough Already.[/glow]

i always thought it had something to do with the Boston tea party (a protest of unfair taxes
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« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2011, 02:14:53 am »

The historical Boston Tea Party was about taxtation without representation. We had no say in it. This is what alot of tea party people don't seem to understand is that we do have representation. If you don't like a tax rate then you vote for the politican that will change it. In essence that is what the Teabaggers are doing except they are snaking their right-wing extremes in the back door. They want to privatize S.S., repeal the new health care laws that protect citizens and heads off rising medical costs, overturn our abortion laws, abolish the minimum wage, destroy collective bargaining and unions period, crack down on illegal immigration ..to name a few.

Our federal government almost shut down because of these guys. Why? Because they didn't want to fund the planned parenthood program that they claim spends tax money on abortion. Problem is that it is illegal to pay for abortions with tax money and planned parenthood is an important part of American women's health.

One core tennant of the tea party is small, fiscally responsible government. Who can't agree with that? You'd have to be barking mad to not think that isn't a good idea. Problem is where do we cut? How are we going to tackle our mounting debt? So the conservatives in this country go after the social programs. Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, planned parenthood etc; programs that benifit the very poor in our country and account for a very small percentage of our tax revenue.
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« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2011, 02:52:55 am »

Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, planned parenthood etc; programs that benifit the very poor in our country and account for a very small percentage of our tax revenue.

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« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2011, 03:51:04 am »

Yeah, about that. Planned Parenthood? Yes, tiny. Welfare? Substantially larger, but still tiny.

Medicaid? Er, getting noticeable there. Medicare? EFFING HUGE.

What really gets to me is the focus on the tiny at the expense of the big. Bob wants to have a conversation about medicare and medicaid? Let's have that. Bob wants to destroy Planned Parenthood on the pretext of budget cutting? Bob is probably not being honest about his motives, there.
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« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2011, 03:54:02 am »

Yes, excuse me. I meant that they are picking on small parts of those programs. Parts that make up very little of the entire entitlment.

With S.S. they want to put that money on the stock market. S.S. would be fine if the politicians would keep their fingers out of it. Yes that means you democrats and republicans.
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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2011, 04:45:50 am »

Quite funny about the difference between military funding and education.
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« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2011, 12:23:13 pm »

The U.S. needs to cut its military spending and stop cutting taxes for the rich. That wouldn't just magically solve all its problems, but it would surely help. Unfortunately, American politicians are just too greedy for that.
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« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2011, 05:38:50 pm »

That's because American politicians are practically unilaterally the rich that they're approving tax cuts for.
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