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Theoretical Immortality
« on: September 23, 2010, 11:08:39 pm »

Split from the "Can computers be made to feel?" thread. I thought the topic was fascinating and would hate to see it doomed to the fate of derailing another thread.

Now please, continue to discuss immortality and its many perks/drawbacks. I look forward to participating.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 11:11:02 pm »

Wouldn't it be possible to live forever if you yourself was energy?  I don't know.  That wouldn't make sense either, I suppose.
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Re: Theoretical Immortality
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 12:19:23 am »

Have a nuclear reactor implanted.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010, 12:40:16 am »

Hehe...

Well, technically it wouldn't forever, and technically, it wouldn't work. 
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Re: Theoretical Immortality
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 01:15:02 am »

say one person became immortal the rest of the human race would evolve and what would happen by the time the universe ends? would this one human remain?
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 01:58:07 am »

say one person became immortal the rest of the human race would evolve and what would happen by the time the universe ends? would this one human remain?

Disregarding those last two questions that were hypothetical nonsense, I believe the one human untouched by age nor death would in time be to future humans as the caveman is to us. He would be considered hideous and repugnant. Even if this did not occur, life would become an extremely dull existence. Mathematically, one's perception of time speeds up as he ages. Entire generations would live and die so quickly to you, it all would seem insignificant. This might also be part of the reason why the Kohr-Ah see other sentient life as filth. Their life spans are so abnormally long that they find everyone else drops like flies.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 01:59:35 am »

Wouldn't it be possible to live forever if you yourself was energy?  I don't know.  That wouldn't make sense either, I suppose.

According to SC3 it makes total sense!
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 02:01:28 am »

According to SC3 it does!

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Re: Theoretical Immortality
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2010, 02:56:36 am »

If one would use his own energy to survive, he'd be changed and diminished by time passage, to the point of loosing control of the energy and simply dissipating.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2010, 03:14:30 am »

say one person became immortal the rest of the human race would evolve and what would happen by the time the universe ends? would this one human remain?

Mathematically, one's perception of time speeds up as he ages.

Where do you get that from?
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2010, 04:56:03 am »

Probably pure logic. Any memory storage device (such as brains) is finite, so to keep up with the increased usage due to lifetime increase the smaller detail would have to be dropped, leaving much less detail of passed experiences, thus time will subjectively "speed up".
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2010, 12:10:11 pm »

Probably pure logic. Any memory storage device (such as brains) is finite, so to keep up with the increased usage due to lifetime increase the smaller detail would have to be dropped, leaving much less detail of passed experiences, thus time will subjectively "speed up".

Not exactly. Time won't seem to pass faster, you'll just forget much of the past. This happens on a day-to-day basis; do you remember when you were born? When you first used the toilet? Probably not, because these things happened early in your life, and they aren't particularly important memories. If you lived for 900 years, the first 30 years of your life would be very much forgotten in the same way. This doesn't mean that days seem to pass faster at all; it might mean you underestimate your life span, but that's about it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2010, 04:45:05 pm »

Probably pure logic. Any memory storage device (such as brains) is finite, so to keep up with the increased usage due to lifetime increase the smaller detail would have to be dropped, leaving much less detail of passed experiences, thus time will subjectively "speed up".

Not exactly. Time won't seem to pass faster, you'll just forget much of the past. This happens on a day-to-day basis; do you remember when you were born? When you first used the toilet? Probably not, because these things happened early in your life, and they aren't particularly important memories. If you lived for 900 years, the first 30 years of your life would be very much forgotten in the same way. This doesn't mean that days seem to pass faster at all; it might mean you underestimate your life span, but that's about it.

Not remembering when you're born or took your first crap might have more to do with your brain not being fully developed at that age.
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Re: Theoretical Immortality
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2010, 05:11:29 pm »

I'd go with that ^

And so you only remember the important stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2010, 07:30:41 pm »

This might also be part of the reason why the Kohr-Ah see other sentient life as filth. Their life spans are so abnormally long that they find everyone else drops like flies.

Where'd this come from? I don't recall the Ur-Quan discussing their lifespans at all, jut that their species as a whole is rather old.
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