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Topic: How can Kor-Ah beat Ur-Quan? (Read 9012 times)
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Rowan McCartney
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Lets be straight, SC2 is the best games ever. But I have always wondered how it's possible for Kor-Ah to ever beat Ur-Quan in the battle thralls...... Ur-Quan is nearly invincible in battle with kor-ah... Just a thought.
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Lukipela
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Also, even without the loss of 30% of their fleet, I think the Kohr-Ah simply have more backing. I mean, they cleanse worlds. That basically takes a little less resources than enslaving, seeing as when the Kzer-Za go "Alright, we've defeated you and now you surrender. We will either build a huge slave-shield or allow you to carry on and be battle thralls. I imagine every now and then someone turns against them as well. The point is that some races get to keep most of their resources, and others get a slaveshield that needs taking care of.
When the Kohr-Ah get to the #Alright we've defeated you" point they simply keep going and destroy everything. then they can take as much resources as they want. Do they colonise? In that case, they'd have a huge backup force, but given their psychology I think not.
So even if the fleets would arrive unscathed, the Ur-quan fleet has wandered through half the galaxy fighting, and then using some parts of the galaxys resources to arm themselves, constantly leaving ships behind to guard the rear from upstart Battle thralls, whereas the Kohr-Ah just have empty void behind them, and have had the opportunity to use all the resources in their half of the galaxy (well ,except for what they burn to the ground).
So they clearly have a stronger fleet.
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Death 999
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We did. You did. Yes we can. No.
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Yeah, but it's not like cleansing life from the galaxy doesn't involve a LOT of fighting...
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Cyamarin
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I agree. The balance of power between the warrior and the scientist is a lot more even when they both have a huge, complicated spaceship at their disposal.
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Shiver
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All of you are making similar points supporting the Kohr-Ah, but remember that the Kzer-Za's strategy for subjegating species was to conquer the weak races first, then progress onto the stronger. They would make their nearby Battle Thralls do all the dirty work when it came down to engaging tough spots (like the Alliance of Free Stars), so this would greatly lower Kzer-Za casualties compared to the loses the Kohr-Ah took. Notice that at the beginning of the Doctrinal War, both Ur-Quan and Kohr-Ah have roughly the same fleet size. So their doctrines are equally efficient at neutralizing other races. But in a fair fight with no Thralls involved, the warrior class wins pretty much by default. This makes me believe that when the Ur-Quan saw the Kohr-Ah fleet wasn't vastly smaller than theirs, they probably knew their cause was lost but didn't want to give up.
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Shiver
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Why would you say that? Obviously, while each side has its own philosophical leanings, they both have warships that are the result of highly advanced technology. This is not hand-to-hand combat--as long as the warships are comparable, then the battle between the thinker and ther warrior will be even (one could even argue the thinkers would be better at strategizing, thus giving them the advantage; however both races are likely equal in this regard due to their thousands of years of combat experience). I would think the same thing myself, but there's one fact that kind proves that the Kohr-Ah are superior combatants, even in space: the Kohr-Ah defeat the Kzer-Za in the game. Nothing even makes it possible for the Kzer-Za to win. After the Utwig, Thraddash, and Suppox all charge into the war and go after the Kohr-Ah (it's true that all three of these races were also attacked by the Kzer-Za, but they mostly tried to stay focused on fighting the black Ur-Quan), the Kohr-Ah still end up victorious.
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