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Re: Need Melee Help?
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2006, 08:41:56 pm »
Quote from: nightwrath on July 01, 2006, 11:48:38 am
1.)How is this possible to work? I thought that the Glory Device deals damage immediately after you press Secondary the third time?

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Quote from: Holocat on July 01, 2006, 06:27:46 pm
If you could add details please?  My mycon handling isn't very good, so tests I run with them aren't really telling what a experienced, capable person can do with them.

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Re: Need Melee Help?
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2006, 01:00:04 am »
Watched the video.  Very cute, smith, very cute.
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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2006, 09:28:19 am »
I don't have a plugin for those videos.  Sad But okay, I believe you, my Arilou reflexes are too sucky to do something like you did.  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2006, 06:12:57 pm »
Quote from: nightwrath on July 02, 2006, 09:28:19 am
I don't have a plugin for those videos.  Sad But okay, I believe you, my Arilou reflexes are too sucky to do something like you did.  Wink

http://www.koepi.org/XviD-1.1.0-30122005.exe

should get you one if you are on Windows.
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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2006, 07:47:35 pm »
One of my favourite machupc from Star Control 1 is Chenjesu VS Mycon. Mycon doesn't (in my experience) stand a chance. I like Chenjesu in general since they have a long range weapon and an energy drainer. In Chenjesu VS Chrmmr, who would win?
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« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2006, 09:36:32 pm »
Yesterday we get a question about whether or not the Kohr-Ah keep Talking Pets (they do) and today we get asked who would win in a fight between a Chenjesu and a Chmmr.

Is noone actually playing the game anymore?  The Chmmr ZapSats nullify the Chenjesu's secondary weapon, and the Chmmr secondary weapon makes it impossible for the Chenjesu to keep their distance, which means they're laser-bait.  It's a very short fight, every time.
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« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2006, 11:22:29 pm »
In a "fair" fight the Chmmr wins, nearly every time. Even against
a good human player. Usually, the best one can do
is pound away at the Chmmr with crystal blasts, doing
a little damage before the fight's over.
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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2006, 11:43:40 am »
Quote from: Data on July 07, 2006, 07:47:35 pm
One of my favourite machupc from Star Control 1 is Chenjesu VS Mycon. Mycon doesn't (in my experience) stand a chance. I like Chenjesu in general since they have a long range weapon and an energy drainer.

Actually, the Chenjesu vs Mycon isn't so difficult for the Mycon. You need to take gravity whips often and know when to slow down. Beware DOGIs. They can really hose you if they bounce you in the wrong time. I didn't play this matchup against a human player, but it is possible to win against a computer at least.

Chenjesu vs. Chmmr:  If the Chmmr starts close to Chenjesu, it's auto win for the Chmmr. If the Chenjesu starts away at the beginning of the battle, gain some speed (assuming you're the Chenjesu) by thrusting away from the Chmmr a bit. Line up with him, turn around and start firing at him so he gets hit by full crystals. Once you get in laser range, thrust against his front and do the Ack-Ack thing against him (this will result in rapidly hitting him with full crystals instead of shards only). With luck you can kill him before he kills you.
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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2006, 09:22:17 pm »
Well, I don't see a way for Chenjesu to win if Chmmr use their tracktor beam. And, Chenjesu should be able to take out Mycon Plasmoids with their crystal shards. If we could only make Melee work atleast on LAN... THEN we could test the real power of ships.
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« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2006, 10:42:41 pm »
Even for a Chmmr using the tractor beam it takes some time to get to it's opponent. You can use this time to to inflict damage upon him with full crystals. When he comes to you, you just blast away like I described in my previous post.

And on the plasmoid destruction: You need to shoot the plasmoids while the Chenjesu's turned back on you so he can't just dismiss them with full shots. If the plasmoids are shot close enough, they may pass into the Chenjesu through his ak-ak shield, dealing damage.
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« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2006, 10:25:40 pm »
I have on occasion been able to cancel Chenjesu against Chmmr just based on using the photon crystals as shields against the laser. You need to be perfectly lined up for this to work, but if you can pull it off, the Chmmr go down doing only about 50% damage to the Chenjesu.
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