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Are there new ships to download?
« on: March 10, 2012, 04:40:22 am »

I'm kinda board with the 25 ships, are there any mods or new ships or anything to download?
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 02:42:26 pm »

Have you checked out Project 6014? Even if it is still a demo, there are a few new ships in melee.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 03:18:56 pm »

You may also want to look at Elvish Pillager's Crazy Mod (dramatically alters melee, including very different ships), and TimeWarp/TW-Light (was once a fan sequel project, ended up only making a melee clone with many ships). All this stuff is indexed and linked at the PNF: http://star-control.com/
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 05:59:34 pm »

The balance mod could be different enough that some ships you didn't like become interesting again.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 02:43:25 am »

That project thing is pretty small... is there any way to make it bigger? I don't care if the quality is a little lower, I just wanna be able to see things.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 02:51:22 am »

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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 08:21:58 am »

Also, what's the deal with the orz? They were originally from some other dimension, then developed wormhole technology and switched dimensions with the androsyn and plan to take over this dimension?

Also if this project isn't finished I might be able to help with some art, I know photoshop pretty well, in fact I might be able to make some planetary skins,

filter -> clouds -> image -> adjustments -> gradient map -> find something that works -> filter -> noise -> add gaussian monochromatic noise -> flexify 2 -> save all the different angles as transparent optimized pngs.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 12:20:26 am »

Also, what's the deal with the orz?
No-one really knows, and that's kinda the point. As I recall, they were supposed to be ambiguous.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 12:40:05 am »

It's wierd that it seems ambiguous because based on their context, they almost certainly came from the same extra dimension as the arilou and swapped places with the androsyn, which would explain the arilou's dislike for them, but I don't get if they are good or mycon-neutral. They probably not evil like the lurg or ur-quan.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 12:56:30 am »

I don't think there's any grounds to call them evil. I don't think they should be regarded as good either, though.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 04:23:34 am »

sorry, forgot to put a "not" in front of evil.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 05:15:25 am »

Frankly, I can't see the Ur-Quan as evil either. They're heavily misguided, and insane, and stuff like that, but "evil" doesn't seem to apply to them.

The Lurg could be anything, since we know next to nothing about them.

Now, the Dnyarri... those I might be able to see as evil.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 06:43:24 am »

I suppose ur-quan aren't evil if they were solely trying to protect other races from the khor, any maybe the khor aren't evil if it's just some religion, but if you look at right now, even though terrorists don't consider themselves evil, many others do.
Lurg are evil, I know that type of plot, even Mass Effect has it. They clearly have no regaurd for the sanctity of life seeing as how they genetically engineer it for whatever purpose they want to gain power.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 08:08:14 pm »

I suppose ur-quan aren't evil if they were solely trying to protect other races from the khor,
Uh, no, they're not trying to protect other races from the Kohr-Ah. They're trying to protect themselves from the perceived threat of other races.

any maybe the khor aren't evil if it's just some religion, but if you look at right now, even though terrorists don't consider themselves evil, many others do.
Again, they Kohr-Ah are insane and think it's the only way to protect themselves.

Lurg are evil, I know that type of plot, even Mass Effect has it.
I don't see how a parallel with Mass Effect is relevant here?

They clearly have no regaurd for the sanctity of life seeing as how they genetically engineer it for whatever purpose they want to gain power.
Genetic engineering implies a lack of regard for sanctity of life now? That doesn't sound right. Still, such a lack of regard doesn't necessarily mean evil, either. Moreover, we haven't actually seen that they lack this regard yet. So I don't think we have enough evidence to say the Lurg are evil.
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Re: Are there new ships to download?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 09:37:27 pm »

How about the fact that the captain of the Earth starbase calls them evil?
Your arguments for evil or not evil don't work exactly, because there is no universal frame of reference, something will always be good to one thing and evil to another.
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