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Re: Slylandro expansion
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2003, 06:48:10 pm »

Nope - the caster was installed by the precursors so that they could talk, which they did frequently.
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2003, 08:36:27 am »

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I could be very wrong, just makin sure, but the Melnorme were definetly the ones who gave them their first probe ship. Thats how they can travel by the way. They dont need to be lifted off their planet or anything.

I think you're a tad confused.  The probes that the Melnorme sold to the Slylandro are fully automated.  There are no Slylandro gas bags inside.  That's why the Slylandro say they've never explored or seen the world off of their gas planet.  In fact, the only thing they did to set the probes on their way was program them.  They tell you that they're awaiting their return, so that their little robot probes can tell them all about the galaxy outside their atmosphere.
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2003, 08:55:43 pm »

Yup. and in regards to "they don't need to leave their planet", it's very true. neither do we, we could justr launch probes. But they might still want to. Isn't it some sort of "biological imperative" to multiply and spread?
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2003, 09:12:28 pm »

Expanding your sphere of influence is only programmed into the Terran code of life.

The concept of DNA and the way life works on Earth could be a singular design, one might argue that alien life (as present in the game) has evolved differently (especially if you look at them Chrystallines).
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2003, 09:15:23 pm »

As far as we know it is opnly built into us. But chances are, it'äs built inot more than our race, at least in the SC universe. Why else woudl so many races have spehres of influence?
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2003, 09:24:53 pm »

Well, question is:

Do they create a sphere of influence because they wanna do that or because they feel they have to do it?

Outta fear to be subjugated or whatever? Powerhunger is always a good reason to go snooping in places where you don't belong (and this is meant UQM-style, not as a political statement - I'm through with that, makes me sick!)
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2003, 11:43:02 pm »

Do we procreate because we really want to, or because it's built into us that we have to? The point is moot. We still do. So wether or not the different alien races are spreading as a response to population pressure, a wish to see the rest of the universe, or to conquer others, or whatever else, they are still spreading. So in the SC universe at least, we can assume that most races feel the need to spread. Of course, the slylandro could be the exception, seeing as they are quite unique (as far as we know), but I think a race as endlesslöy curious as they woudl jump at the chance to spread.
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2003, 03:53:08 am »

Wouldnt the Caster survive like other Precursor relects do? I mean they have been around for what was it 130,000 years?

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but BioSlayer wrote- Built Precursor tough Wink

Another thing is, are there any other races of floating gas bags that the SC2 aliens have mentioned? Maybe there was something said about their circle of influence?
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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2003, 06:02:03 am »

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Do we procreate because we really want to, or because it's built into us that we have to?

I would argue we aren't robots and we don't procreate for the wimple reason of wanting to or being programmed to, lol...  it's a little more complicated than that.  Ever heard of love and attraction?

The Slylandro are a species who do not see time as we do.  Their time is measured in drahns, thousands of Earth years.  They are not the kind of species that wants to leave their planet.  They want to know about the galaxy and its people, but they show no intention to leave to find out about them...  instead, that is the function of the probes.  It seems out of their character to want to leave their home and expand, as they are satisfied to communicate with visitors to their area of space, their planet in particular.  They're in no rush to go anywhere...
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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2003, 06:34:28 am »

Does a virus procreate because it wants to or because it can?
It HAS all the necessary information and therefore can, question would be be if it feels the need or wanting... The information on that is clear: Not enough bases to cover a "want" or "need", just the possibility!
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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2003, 06:16:29 pm »

You're missing the point GM. It doesn't matter why it procreates, only that it does. what I was trying to say was that even though we only know of expansionism in humans, and it doesn't necessarily run in the other races of the SC universe, they still expand. So whatever their driving force is, it doesn't matter. Te result is the same, expansion. Therefore I'm assuming that seeing as all other races in the galaxy, due to any combinations of any character traits seem to expand beyond the homeworld, the Slylandro might feel that need as well, whatever the basis for their expansion is. I just think it might be curiosity...

Oh, and Omni-Samna:  Not to be a party pooper, but there are a lot of ppl that believe that love, no matter hown nice and warm and fuzzy it is, its a simple biological mean of making sure that the mates stay together for long enough to protect the offspring, and give them a better chance to reach maturity. you see this in the Animal Kingdom as well. Of course, whatever the reasons, it's still a great thing Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2003, 02:03:31 am »

Well, it's entirely possible that it's camofluage is 'very well done'.

After all, the Druuge say they have a hard time finding the Utwig bomb on the planet, even if you leave them searching for it for 3 or 4 years. Then you come along, blow them away, and find it in the course of a few minutes.
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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2003, 02:25:25 am »

Well, you have precursor sensors that are so good that they can find minerals on moons that were mined out during the war, and individual life signs...
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« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2003, 02:32:12 am »

Not to mention a lander with said precursor technology that can find the bomb without even bothering to scan the planet.
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« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2003, 06:17:04 am »

Let's see...

Earthlings: SC's Earthlings would want to expand their sphere, but probably through colonization, not conquest. (I'm talking about Star Control Earthlings here, not real ones. Wink )
Syreen: Same as the Earthlings for the most part, except I think they would be a little less adverse to war. (After all, they carry daggers whereever they go. Wink )
Mycon: We must change the Non in the name of Juffo-Wup.
Ur-Quan: Duh.
Shofixti: Feudal Japanese warlords were always jockeying for more power, and the Shofixti are based on them... so yeah, they would expand their sphere.
Spathi: Probably want to expand their sphere just so they have more advance warning before The Ultimate Evil reaches Spathiwa. Wink
Yehat: Colonization, yes. War, no, unless the people they are to attack insulted their honor first.
Pkunk: They probably want to spread as much love as they possibly can, but without bloodshed.
Thraddash: Would be more than happy to conquer other races... if they could stop conquering themselves for a few years.
Ilwrath: Increasing the size of their empire is probably not their goal, but when your fetid gods command you do conquer someone, it happens anyway.
Androsynth: Interested in building up their empire as much as possible before the conflict with the humans that we all know was gonna happen if not for the Orz.
Orz: Umm... I dunno.
Arilou: Who knows?
Kohr-Ah: They want to be the ONLY sphere of influence.
Chenjesu: Would have no problem with colonization as far as I can see, but would never conquer others. If forced into a war, once they won they would probably set up a new government there and leave. (Like the U.S. and Japan after WW2)
Mrmnmhrm: Can't really expand, as their population can't grow. May still explore other Precursor related planets to look for a way to repair Mother Ark.
Umgah: Spread as far as they can, but without violence. Well, unless that violence was funny...
Druuge: More worlds means more capital for the Crimson Corporation.
Utwig: Like the Earthlings, peaceful expansion.
Supox: Do whatever the Utwig do. Wink
VUX: They strike me as pretty warlike...
ZFP: Peaceful expansion would be to their liking, but that's sort of hard to do in the middle of to Ur-Quan spheres.

Am I forgetting anyone?
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