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Slylandro in disguised ships
« on: December 10, 2012, 04:55:19 am »

Hello:

I was pleased with Star Control II: The Ur-Quan Masters,
and I've been playing Star Control 3: Project 6014 demo

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Thanks,

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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2012, 11:05:25 pm »

The Slylandro and Kohr-Ah ships both appear randomly - you'll just have to fly around and hope you run into them. The Slylandro ships do use a different image if you run into them in-system.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 11:41:45 pm »

Hello:

Thank you.  It looks like what I need to do is collect a lot of RUs
and build some Chmmr ships to combat what could be a lot of confrontations
with the new Kohr-Ah Rath ships.

There isn't much space on the ships for cargo so I need to go to
planets with valuable RUs, so I'd be looking for hot stars.

It's too bad I can't get Rus from the Melnorme, only gas.

Using F6 seems a bit buggy maybe you know that already.
The slash key in the star map seems to work a little better.
If I try one that doesn't work, I find the star I'm looking for
is near the one the program provided me.

It looks to me that SC3 is on a smaller scale:
less star systems, less aliens and less content of the game in general
The fact it's been referred to as a demo version seems to confirm that
suspicion.

I think I misused the "Spoiler" alert.  The word "spoiler" appears
in brackets twice.  It occurred to me that maybe I should have written
the spoliing information between the two brackets.

Too late now, unless you know how I can modify information I've already
posted.

Thanks again for answering!

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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 12:16:46 am »

There should be a Modify button on your original post.

I would not suggest using Chmmr ships to fight the Kohr-Ah, others will do the job better (less damage) and cheaper. Yehat works well. There is also a way to destroy (AI only!) Kohr-Ah with ZFP Stingers. (hint: make the AI waste its battery)
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 12:42:58 am »

Hello:

Try Yehat.  Ok.

What is AI?  Yehat and especially the ZFP are a lot cheaper than Chmmrs
and now that I think of it, they (Chmmrs) don't last very long.

I don't know your reference to an AI battery because I don't know what AI refers to.

Artificial intelligence?  I know in Melee mode, you can play against the alien or you
can have the computer fight for you.  Is this what you're talking about?

Also:  Is this a smaller "demo" version compared to SC2?  Or are both games about the
same size in scope?

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 01:01:22 am »

I mean Artificial Intelligence, yes. (in the sense that all of the alien ships that you encounter are of course being piloted by the same computer that you could choose to fight the battles for you). The AI code that pilots the Kohr-Ah ships is very wasteful of the combat batteries if you can create the right circumstances. Smiley

P6014 will presumably be similar in scope to SC2 once it's finished, but at the moment all the Project has released is demos, yes.

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 02:15:25 am »

Hello:

The AI code that pilots the Kohr-Ah ships is very wasteful of the combat batteries if you can create the right circumstances. Smiley

I think I know how to make the computer controller my alien fighters/AI.

What's this business about the "right circumstances"?  Were you being intentionally
mysterious, that this is something I should figure out for myself (purpose being it would be
more fun if I figure it out myself?)?

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2012, 03:05:51 am »

What's this business about the "right circumstances"?  Were you being intentionally
mysterious, that this is something I should figure out for myself (purpose being it would be
more fun if I figure it out myself?)

Exactly. Just load up a Stinger and a Marauder in Supermelee and see if you can figure it out. (There's probably Youtube videos on the topic if you'd rather not Smiley)
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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 05:34:52 am »

Just as a note, I don't recommend referring to P6014 as SC3, because a) it's a fan sequel and b) there's already a game that has that moniker.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2012, 10:09:43 pm »

Hello,

I understood the second part about the idea that there's already a game named Star Control 3.
I don't know what you mean by "it's a fan sequel".  Can you specify?  Thanks.

I went to Zeta Sextantis and found a rainbow world, but the Melnorme wouldn't buy it for credits,
saying they already knew about it.  Does that apply to all the rainbow worlds you can find in Star Control 2?
Are there new ones out there?  If so, where are they?

I don't mind the fact that it would be a bit of a "spoiler".

Speaking of spoilers, I've looked about the "crash site" and the three Shofixti circles and found absolutely
nothing.  Can someone tell me where I can find aliens to interact with and the crash site?

Again, I don't care about it being a spoiler, I already spent a long time trying to figure it out on my own.

Thanks!

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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 10:16:42 pm »

Hello,

I tried SuperMelee pitting the ZPF Stinger against the Kohr-Ah Rath Marauder
but couldn't figure out how to defeat the Kohr-Ah.  I tried as a human and
as a cyborg.

Someone said I can try using YouTube to discover how to defeat the Kohr-Ah
with the Stinger.  Can you tell me where to go/what to type to get YouTube to
show me how to do it?

In cyborg mode, the Stinger used the pea shooter and not the 'tongue" which
inflicts a lot more damage.  If that's the way to do it, it would take a while to
whittle away the Kohr-Ah's strength.

I remember in Star Control 2, the Spathi used a similar weapon against the
Kzer-Za Ur-Quan, so maybe that's what you meant after all?

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2012, 12:39:16 am »

I understood the second part about the idea that there's already a game named Star Control 3.
I don't know what you mean by "it's a fan sequel".  Can you specify?  Thanks.
Fan sequel means it's made by fans of the game (ie, people who really like the game); thus it's an unofficial sequel. (Note though that the actual SC3 was also made by a third party and as such may not be official either.)

I went to Zeta Sextantis and found a rainbow world, but the Melnorme wouldn't buy it for credits,
saying they already knew about it.  Does that apply to all the rainbow worlds you can find in Star Control 2?
Are there new ones out there?  If so, where are they?
I assume it would mean that, since you probably told them about all the rainbow worlds in SC2. I'm going to assume there are probably not any more rainbow worlds out there.

Speaking of spoilers, I've looked about the "crash site" and the three Shofixti circles and found absolutely
nothing.  Can someone tell me where I can find aliens to interact with and the crash site?
If I recall correctly, only one of the Shofixti circles intersects with the crash circle, and there aren't a lot of stars in the intersection. If you visit them all, in one of them you'll see a ship fleeing the system. That's the one you want. There's no need to visit every single planet; just enter the system and see if there are any ships.
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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2012, 01:02:52 am »

Hello,

A bona fide sequel to SC2 would be awesome.  I like P6014 but it does not have as much game to play (different
aliens, stars, puzzles, etc.) as SC2.  I eagerly await a finished version, as I understand this is a demo version.

It's too bad there aren't more Rainbow Worlds, that's an easy way to buy a lot of info and fuel from the Melnorme.

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Thanks for the heads up on finding the missing Shofixti (or whatever it is I'm supposed to find).

BYE.
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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2012, 02:02:26 am »

Hello,

I found the aliens but not (apparently) the crash site?

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Re: Slylandro in disguised ships
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2012, 03:05:58 pm »

Once you've found the Lurg, that's the system you want, so look at the planets in that system.
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