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Re: The end game
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 03:50:54 pm »
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This is not universally good advice, since it depends on whether you've completed a certain optional side quest.

Actually it does work whether or not you make the Pkunk your friends.  If you don't make them your friends they don't appear to make their pilgrimage to the home stars, but if you've completed that other task then it still works.

"That other task" is an optional side quest.


Yeeaahh... I believe the other poster mentioned that.  And your point is...?
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Re: The end game
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 09:30:38 pm »
...that it was the optional side quest that CelticMinstrel was talking about.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 07:50:33 pm »
Which is why I said it's not universally good advice to lose ships fighting the two Ur-Quan subspecies.

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 06:14:48 pm »
Ok, completing that task is optional, but I'm not sure why anyone would not do it.  Perhaps that's because the Yehat people are my favorite species of the game.  I"m not talking about thier ships, which are good fighters, but I'm talking about the people themselves.  We don't really get to talk with them too much, but they are my kind of people.  If I lived in that Universe, I would probably live in Yehat space.  At least until the bird-brained idiots got there.

Never mind the great benefit you get at the endgame for doing it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 06:28:43 pm »
Well, completing that quest is not exactly easy for a beginner that isn't cheating (reading a walkthrough). It requires solving a riddle that is nearly impossible to solve without the original paper star map, unless you get a tip that you only get on one very specific condition (which isn't hinted at by the game in any way to be useful).
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2013, 05:02:31 pm »
Or you explore around every portal and go mining.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2013, 05:33:26 pm »
Who would think to choose that area for mining? By the time you can even reach it, resources probably aren't a problem anymore; at that point, you're just mining whatever you happen to come across.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2013, 11:53:31 pm »
Quote from: onpon4 on May 28, 2013, 06:28:43 pm
Well, completing that quest is not exactly easy for a beginner that isn't cheating (reading a walkthrough). It requires solving a riddle that is nearly impossible to solve without the original paper star map, unless you get a tip that you only get on one very specific condition (which isn't hinted at by the game in any way to be useful).

True, on your first try you probably will not complete that task.  But once you know what ZEX wants, Culture 20 tells you where to find it.  ZEX's clue is pretty meaningless.  And the Melnorme tell you that some Yehat are unhappy with thier state of affairs once you sell a few rainbow worlds to them and have the credits to buy info.

We all know you have to play the game a few times to really learn everything and put it all together.  Or cheat.  But once you know what to do, I don't see why anyone would not do it, given the reward. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2013, 02:23:17 am »
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But once you know what ZEX wants, Culture 20 tells you where to find it.

They only tell you if you ally with them (optional) and if, when they ask you how to make their culture, you answer "like us", rather than one of the other much funnier possibilities. It doesn't hint at this choice actually being important; it's just having a little fun.

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ZEX's clue is pretty meaningless.

Not at all, if you have the original paper starmap. That starmap shows constellation lines, and the constellation you need to go to clearly looks like a long, thin creature that has swallowed a huge beast. Probably not incidentally, the constellation name also sounds similar to what the old alien language calls the constellation.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2013, 06:05:56 pm »
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Who would think to choose that area for mining? By the time you can even reach it, resources probably aren't a problem anymore; at that point, you're just mining whatever you happen to come across.

And it's right next to a portal exit. So you just happen to come across it while seeing if there's anything in that cluster. That's how we found it my first time through.
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Re: The end game
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2013, 05:18:00 am »
Quote from: Death 999 on May 31, 2013, 06:05:56 pm
And it's right next to a portal exit. So you just happen to come across it while seeing if there's anything in that cluster. That's how we found it my first time through.

Yeah, that's how I found the monster the first time, too.  I was making my own little starmap of where each portal went.  I had to run from it and didn't realize its importance, because my landers were not yet good enough to deal with it.
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