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Re: Short Questions and Answers
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 09:00:19 pm »

Hm, I loose much time.... guess I will loose the first try  Embarrassed However - are star systems always the same? Is it helpful to make notes on the systems, or are the random generated in every game?
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 09:43:24 pm »

Hm, I loose much time.... guess I will loose the first try  Embarrassed However - are star systems always the same? Is it helpful to make notes on the systems, or are the random generated in every game?

Most people lose on the first try, though you probably haven't run into the reason why yet.

Yes, the systems are always the same.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 10:17:35 pm »

Thank you! Two more questions I have at the moment.

1. Is there any way to gather infos or is it only random, if I go to the right star systems? My base commander says, the red/blue cristalls with the absurd agil ships will overrun everything within a year or so. I shall stop that. Ok. So what now? The master trader has no infos about them (or has so much infos, that I can't find the infos I need Smiley) I tried every dialogue, but no clue where they come from. Is there any ingame method to find out? An other example: I found this lemon-aliens (orz or something like that). They talk in riddles. My character is not sure, if we have an ally or not. How to find out? Third: Made an alliance with this enlightened bird-guys (really love them!  Grin) They told me to destroy the spider-eggs. So - where to get a clue, where to find it? You get the idea: There are so many interesting plots - but nearly no clues how to make the next step in the storyline.

2. Combat still is so fast/hard, that it is demotivating me sometimes. I travelled to ZogFot (the Rigel-Mission-Line) and met some black Ur-Quan-whatevers. They blow me out of space so easy, that I have to ask: Do I have to beat them? I stand no chance against them oder the cloaked spiders, not the slightest chance. I'm an awful space captain for sure Cheesy So: Makes it sense to invest so much time, if I fight so bad? Or do I still have a chance to beat the game? At least I overcome this quick-cristalls quite easy with my flagship. Smiley They are the only ones I can beat  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2013, 10:42:15 pm »

1. Is there any way to gather infos or is it only random, if I go to the right star systems? My base commander says, the red/blue cristalls with the absurd agil ships will overrun everything within a year or so. I shall stop that. Ok. So what now? The master trader has no infos about them (or has so much infos, that I can't find the infos I need Smiley) I tried every dialogue, but no clue where they come from. Is there any ingame method to find out? An other example: I found this lemon-aliens (orz or something like that). They talk in riddles. My character is not sure, if we have an ally or not. How to find out? Third: Made an alliance with this enlightened bird-guys (really love them!  Grin) They told me to destroy the spider-eggs. So - where to get a clue, where to find it? You get the idea: There are so many interesting plots - but nearly no clues how to make the next step in the storyline.

Everything in the game is learnable in-game. One puzzle is really meant to be solved with the paper map that was distributed with the original game (http://www.star-control.com/files/Starmaps/01.jpg); it technically has another way to solve it in-game, but there's no guarantee you'll see it. The rest, though, can either be learned about from the Melnorme or one (or more, as is often the case) of the various alien races.

2. Combat still is so fast/hard, that it is demotivating me sometimes. I travelled to ZogFot (the Rigel-Mission-Line) and met some black Ur-Quan-whatevers. They blow me out of space so easy, that I have to ask: Do I have to beat them? I stand no chance against them oder the cloaked spiders, not the slightest chance. I'm an awful space captain for sure Cheesy So: Makes it sense to invest so much time, if I fight so bad? Or do I still have a chance to beat the game? At least I overcome this quick-cristalls quite easy with my flagship. Smiley They are the only ones I can beat  Grin

If you have a Spathi ship, you can beat those ships with practice (Super Melee is the way to practice, with the enemy set to "Awesome Cyborg", since that's the A.I. that's used in-game). But really, you should be avoiding them; if you've maximized your thrusters and turning jets, you can do this pretty easily. Just keep watching the minimap (in the bottom-right), and if it looks like you're going to run into a TrueSpace bubble, manually steer clear out of the way and then re-set the autopilot.
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 02:09:18 am »

My base commander says, the red/blue cristalls with the absurd agil ships will overrun everything within a year or so. I shall stop that. Ok. So what now? Is there any ingame method to find out?
Yes.  Each race you talk to has several different conversations you can have, and it can take several encounters to go through them all.  Keep talking with each race until you get no new options.  In the case of the probes, I believe that the ZoqFot can help you out, if you talk to them enough.

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An other example: I found this lemon-aliens (orz or something like that). They talk in riddles. My character is not sure, if we have an ally or not. How to find out?
The Orz are supposed to be kind of ambiguous, but one way to tell if you have a solid alliance with another race is to see whether there is an alert sound when you encounter their ships.  If there is no alert, then you have an alliance.

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I travelled to ZogFot (the Rigel-Mission-Line) and met some black Ur-Quan-whatevers. They blow me out of space so easy
They are one of the harder ships to fight.  Spathi can be fairly effective against them.
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 08:57:51 am »

Thanks again  Smiley I avoid them (speed of flagship is on max already). It's simply overhelming sometimes Smiley Thanks to your help the fight will go on!  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2013, 12:26:56 am »

The Melnorme will also help you out, for a price.

I believe a certain
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^^^ Above is the descriptions of two races which you might not have met. It's not their names or anythng, but I but them in spoiler tags just in case.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2013, 01:08:38 am »

The Melnorme will also help you out, for a price.

I believe a certain
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race will give you help about the probes, as will some
(click to show/hide)
ones.

^^^ Above is the descriptions of two races which you might not have met. It's not their names or anythng, but I but them in spoiler tags just in case.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2013, 11:15:59 pm »

Um, there are no "green humanoid" races in the game. Tongue The only humanoid race is the Syreen.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2013, 12:15:13 am »

Um, there are no "green humanoid" races in the game. Tongue The only humanoid race is the Syreen.

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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2013, 10:23:41 pm »

No nitpicking intended, but this reminds me how much I like this piece of description from Ultronomicon:

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Physically, humans appear to follow a similar body plan to many (though not all) spacefaring species, the generally useful one of a bipedal configuration with mobile graspers (hands and arms) with a wide range of motion and a dedicated sensory appendage (a head). In fact, the description of this physiology, humanoid, is based on the word "human".
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2013, 04:32:58 pm »

Um, there are no "green humanoid" races in the game. Tongue The only humanoid race is the Syreen.

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