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Star control 3 plot
« on: August 04, 2013, 07:57:32 am »

how exactly do you contribute to the writing for it? Or is it completed already? i don't know I haven't been here for a long time and when i as on it took LITERALLY 5 months just for someone to tell me I can contribute at all.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 12:46:37 am »

By "Star Control 3" I presume you mean Project 6014.  I don't mean to sound judgemental or anything, but you'd probably make faster progress if you at least knew the name of the fan project you're considering making contributions to.

The second step would probably be e-mailing someone in charge.  Here's the project page, complete with what looks like a few important email addresses: http://code.google.com/p/project6014/

I found that link by clicking on the first forum topic I saw with "Project 6014" in the title, btw.  It's not hard to track these people down.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 04:59:19 am »

Dude I've had the project for a year, I just haven't gotten back to it in a long tie and I already contributed some art and sound. In fact I recently completed my version of the entire plot-line with many loose ends closed up like ho the captain escapes, how to defeat the Lurg, what their plan is, why the Orz act the way they do,  now on the wiki page that Awakened directed me too, now they just need to decide if that's the plot-line they want to go with. I would suggest if you're a standard fan who is eager for this project to come out that you avoid the wiki page because it contains many spoilers of what can possibly put in the game, though it won't start being worked on for at least a month due to the scheduling in the lives of the main programmers.
 I merely posted this topic in case like before they would take 4-5 months to respond to me. Secondly, I purposely said "Star Control 3" because I hate the other Star Control 3 created after Paul and Fred were fired and wish it never existed and hope p6014 can replace it and wash away those terrible memories. Their new victory ditties are just an awful clash with what you would expect the style of the game to be and they have like 5 similar sounding guitar solos that remind me of 12 bar blues or rock from the 60s.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 03:17:10 am »

Dude I've had the project for a year, I just haven't gotten back to it in a long tie and I already contributed some art and sound. In fact I recently completed my version of the entire plot-line with many loose ends closed up like ho the captain escapes, how to defeat the Lurg, what their plan is, why the Orz act the way they do,  now on the wiki page that Awakened directed me too, now they just need to decide if that's the plot-line they want to go with. I would suggest if you're a standard fan who is eager for this project to come out that you avoid the wiki page because it contains many spoilers of what can possibly put in the game, though it won't start being worked on for at least a month due to the scheduling in the lives of the main programmers.

There's a difference between contributing and taking over to do it all yourself.  Maybe the reason that people are slow to respond is (a) it takes them 5 months to read through all the stuff you wrote and (b) they'd like to find ways to incorporate their own ideas, too.

In any case, a fan project like this isn't going to be finished in a few months.  This is the sort of thing that takes years, dude.  UQM has been going for at least 10 years (probably longer) and it's still not completely finished.  Hasn't even reached "version 1.0" yet.  I would expect P6014 will take even longer since they're making up all-new content and writing all-new code, not just cleaning up and updating an existing program.

I merely posted this topic in case like before they would take 4-5 months to respond to me. Secondly, I purposely said "Star Control 3" because I hate the other Star Control 3 created after Paul and Fred were fired and wish it never existed and hope p6014 can replace it and wash away those terrible memories.

Suit yourself, but if you insist on using the name "Star Control 3" to refer to a project commonly known to the community at large as "Project 6014," don't be surprised when mere mortals such as myself get confused.  I don't have any love lost for the "official" SC3 either, but I have better things to do with my time than hate it into the ground and pretend it never happened.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 05:30:52 am »

Dude I've had the project for a year, I just haven't gotten back to it in a long tie and I already contributed some art and sound. In fact I recently completed my version of the entire plot-line with many loose ends closed up like ho the captain escapes, how to defeat the Lurg, what their plan is, why the Orz act the way they do,  now on the wiki page that Awakened directed me too, now they just need to decide if that's the plot-line they want to go with. I would suggest if you're a standard fan who is eager for this project to come out that you avoid the wiki page because it contains many spoilers of what can possibly put in the game, though it won't start being worked on for at least a month due to the scheduling in the lives of the main programmers.

There's a difference between contributing and taking over to do it all yourself.  

Which is exactly why I started this
http://www.star-control.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=895&p=19914#p19914
and have been emailing other p6014 wiki authors because I didn't want to take over the entire project by myself and specifically wanted to regard contributions of other people. If I need to re-take the role as a lead writer so that we actually get something done and don't make it too convoluted I'll get some advice from the project leaders who so far support the general story I have so far.

In any case, a fan project like this isn't going to be finished in a few months.
I don't know about the programming, but if we take writing the storyline seriously we can definitely get the storyline done in a few months. After that we need the speech dialogue and missions, but if we write the plot/story-line well enough than we can clearly see missions and speeches already somewhat developed.


Suit yourself, but if you insist on using the name "Star Control 3" to refer to a project commonly known to the community at large as "Project 6014," don't be surprised when mere mortals such as myself get confused.  I don't have any love lost for the "official" SC3 either, but I have better things to do with my time than hate it into the ground and pretend it never happened.

Well I just can't stand playing that other SC3  and can barely stand looking at it and I don't like how they made the realistic version of Mycon look like flowers sitting on a rock, but more often than not I use the term "p6014" to describe project 6014 anyway, so it shouldn't be a concern.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 01:29:19 pm »

I can't speak for the people actually working on P6014, but I don't want your writing anywhere near ir. If it's anything like your forum posting, and I assume it would have to be, it would be low-effort, embarassing drivel. Now for the sake of everyone's sanity please just drop it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 04:20:43 pm »

You obviously haven't read my posts or my story-line progress so far, and frankly it's kind of insulting because I already have 20 pages (around 100,000 characters) written from scratch, not to mention a few pages redone, and then literally 12GB of planet textures as well as a n SFX library.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 06:02:49 pm »

How do you expect people to suffer through 20 pages of your horrible ideas when you can't even spell the names of the alien races correctly you muppet.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 06:06:33 pm »

How do you expect people to suffer through 20 pages of your horrible ideas when you can't even spell the names of the alien races correctly you muppet.

Because I was rushing through it so I could review it with zanik and a few other people. And in case you didn't know, these are fictional races. As long as you know which race is being referred to it doesn't really matter how you spell things in the rough draft.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 06:09:04 pm »

You give me a strong reason to believe that you are incapable of spelling them correctly in the final version as well.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 06:09:37 pm »

You give me a strong reason to believe that you are incapable of spelling them correctly in the final version as well.

No one cares.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 06:11:01 pm »

I care, Dabir seems to care. A lot of people will care once they actually read your "script". How long has this project been in the making? "Noone cares" seems to be the general attitude you have about it all.
Maybe leave the writing to someone who actually does care?
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 06:11:59 pm »

I care, Dabir seems to care. A lot of people will care once they actually read your "script". How long has this project been in the making? "Noone cares" seems to be the general attitude you have about it all.
Maybe leave the writing to someone who actually does care?

Obviously making fuss about the rough draft isn't helping develop the plot. If you actually cared, then like other p6014 writers you'd do writing yourself. Where's your cohesive 20 page plotline that utilizes the p6014 wiki races?
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 06:17:47 pm »

I do care, but unlike you I am aware that I am not a great writer. This is the crux of the problem here.
The old "if you don't like it, do it yourself" approach is also pretty pointless here since I do not have the time nor the writing skill to pull it off.
The real problem is, neither have you (the latter part at least).

Your question of "where's your cohesive 20 page plotline" makes it look like you think your twenty pages (it was two posts on the star-control forum but ok) of drivel is good simply because it is "cohesive".

tl;dr: Hit the showers. Re-hire that guy in the other thread to do the writing.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 06:20:54 pm »

I do care, but unlike you I am aware that I am not a great writer. This is the crux of the problem here.
The old "if you don't like it, do it yourself" approach is also pretty pointless here since I do not have the time nor the writing skill to pull it off.
The real problem is, neither have you (the latter part at least).

Your question of "where's your cohesive 20 page plotline" makes it look like you think your twenty pages (it was two posts on the star-control forum but ok) of drivel is good simply because it is "cohesive".

tl;dr: Hit the showers. Re-hire that guy in the other thread to do the writing.

I didn't say I was the best writer or even a great writer, you completely ignored the fact that I publicly posted the plotline specifically so I could get feedback to make it better. At this point you're just a petty troll.
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