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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2013, 06:24:14 pm »

"My japanese friend got offended by the Shofixti"/"Airlou "dude is calling me a troll.

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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 06:31:04 pm »

I didn't say they were offended I said they found it "awkward". You remind me greatly of someone else who already got kicked off the project for arguing with everyone and trolling, I wonder if that's a coincidence.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2013, 11:05:22 pm »

You obviously haven't read my posts or my story-line progress so far, and frankly it's kind of insulting because I already have 20 pages (around 100,000 characters) written from scratch, not to mention a few pages redone, and then literally 12GB of planet textures as well as a n SFX library.
I could make 12GB of planet textures easily. Would you also like to see my 50000-line program? Or are those actually totally meaningless numbers just thrown out to look impressive? I think they might be.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 11:22:34 pm »

Either way I've made contributions and am continuing to contribute,
And on top of all of that the first plot line which I bet you still haven't read is only the rough draft. You yourself could make 12GB because you'd take the cheep way and make a few that were 30 feet large whereas I have at least 200 unique textures most of which you can't find anywhere online.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2013, 05:12:01 pm »

It's sad to see this forum degenerate so.

People are being unnecessarily harsh to FakeMccoy.  Yes, FakeMccoy makes novice mistakes of misspelling and bad grammar and calling P6014 SC3, but good ideas can come from imperfect writing.  It makes it unpleasant to read, but some of the things Kwayne said in the other thread were totally uncalled for.  There's also the issue of boasting of twenty pages for plot.  For a writer, twenty pages is very little.  In three stories I've written some thirteen hundred pages, all single-spaced with 12-point font.  And other things, like the whole premise of the shofixty too racist thread and other scientific things, apparently.  It seems to me the correct approach would be, "Hey guys, let's work together."  The problem is... a while ago I offered to write plot for P6014 and it got denied.  I'm not sure the creators are interested.

FakeMccoy, I think people would take you seriously if you edited your posts to fix all your spelling and grammatical mistakes.  While it's clear you have true dedication to P6014, it doesn't seem that way at a glance due to not taking the time to spell things properly.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2013, 05:18:32 pm »

Well I was trying to pump things out so I could have something for people to review. 20 pages isn't a lot in terms of a total project but it's not like I made it in a mere hour. If you look at my latest run the story is looking a lot more cohesive and well-written with few grammatical and spelling errors, and I'm sure you're well-aware I've gone out of my way to try and get other authors on board.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2013, 08:05:18 pm »

Well I was trying to pump things out so I could have something for people to review. 20 pages isn't a lot in terms of a total project but it's not like I made it in a mere hour. If you look at my latest run the story is looking a lot more cohesive and well-written with few grammatical and spelling errors, and I'm sure you're well-aware I've gone out of my way to try and get other authors on board.
Oh yes, I appreciate the efforts.  I'm sure many people want to see P6014 come to fruition.  It's just... to my knowledge Cedric doesn't need help with the plot.  Then again, this is slightly dated information.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2013, 09:28:14 pm »

You'd have to be a fool to take on such a great project that captivated many fans by yourself, even professional writers often have other professional writers read their stories, make suggestions, point out inconsistencies. Im sure he's no fool which is why the wiki was made and he looked at the suggestions of others as well. This project is for fans and so far by fans, notice that its plural. For some reason I'm not having any luck contacting any of the old authors I found on wiki, I guess I have to wait for the programmer to get ready.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2013, 09:49:54 am »

Cedric isn't much an active member of plot development anymore, danzibr. When I joined back then, he was more or less, but now the project has a different crew. A guy named Nico (a.k.a. AwakenedEyes -- not sure he's a member of this forum) is now the lead in plot development, and Damon Czanik is the project lead. They are very inclusive when it comes to new members, overly inclusive if you ask me. I agree that FakeMccoy's writing needs to be polished (very hard), especially if it was posted to be reviewed by others. People should care about the quality of such work as it shows the writers general attitude towards writing. "I was rushing it" is not an excuse. Sadly, FakeMccoy didn't yet show us a correct attitude to write, only boasting with the meaningless quantities of his work, his unimportant scientific "knowledge", his incessant utterance of guesswork and childish misconceptions, and how he takes himself more seriously than the subject matter of Star Control. If he's in P6014, don't be surprised if people -- who love SC content as it is -- won't have any interest in playing P6014. I've already lost my faith in that project the moment Nico joined.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2013, 04:40:58 pm »

People should care about the quality of such work as it shows the writers general attitude towards writing. "I was rushing it" is not an excuse. Sadly, FakeMccoy didn't yet show us a correct attitude to write, only boasting with the meaningless quantities of his work, his unimportant scientific "knowledge", his incessant utterance of guesswork and childish misconceptions, and how he takes himself more seriously than the subject matter of Star Control. If he's in P6014, don't be surprised if people -- who love SC content as it is -- won't have any interest in playing P6014. I've already lost my faith in that project the moment Nico joined.

Sadly some people just don't get it and cant help themselves from trying to insult or bring down other people and ruin the project. Both the current project leaders know well enough I have a more than an enthusiastic attitude about being involved in this project, I guess you never really created anything before because you don't really understand what a rough draft is, as seen here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rough+draft. No one in their right mind would think the very first test run is suppose to be the final thing, and I already changed the major events of the plot-line. Why? Because because any person who takes anything seriously takes the time to go through things called "drafts". If I didn't know any better I'd say your...event, with no longer working on the project is why you troll so hard, and your effort to bring down the members of the project won't accomplish anything.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2013, 09:36:07 pm »

What bugs people is that the content of your drafts reveal you really don't know quite what you're writing about, and also don't care about writing *well* (otherwise your sentences wouldn't be a paragraph long, and wouldn't be full of gratuitous misspellings).
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2013, 09:56:51 pm »

What bugs people is that the content of your drafts reveal you really don't know quite what you're writing about, and also don't care about writing *well* (otherwise your sentences wouldn't be a paragraph long, and wouldn't be full of gratuitous misspellings).

As I said before I'm going through multiple drafts and contacting various people about creating an "author" team, I didn't expect to be writing everything single-handedly and I definitely don't remember everything from SC2, I only remember what I had been said when I played it threw 4-5 times, but as I said that's why I'm getting a "team" together.
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2013, 01:51:06 am »

To offer constructive critism, I'd say go back and play it again, so it's fresh in your mind. The new UQM HD project is a nice place to start, since they just dropped a new release. You can also check all your facts agains the Ultranomicon.
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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2013, 03:06:49 am »

To offer constructive critism, I'd say go back and play it again, so it's fresh in your mind. The new UQM HD project is a nice place to start, since they just dropped a new release. You can also check all your facts agains the Ultranomicon.
I was thinkin the same thing, but I also have little time as I need to organize a writing team and finish another draft. I think though we will be able to work on the Baul soon though and perhaps update the mod so people at least have something new. We even got a voice actor for the Chmmr now.
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2013, 06:05:06 am »

At least check your facts if you're going through all the effort of writing.

Who's the voiceover? Tell me it's Ben Stein!
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