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GermanNightmare
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This has been quality Lukipela humor. In the case that you have not enjoyed it, rest assured that there is something badly wrong with you, and you are in need of immediate treatment.
No need for any kind of treatment here: Reading it has been a treat though!
Man, this is great!
I do remember your "Super-Heated Magnetic Liquification System"TM - that was another really good thread we kinda took hold of, huh?
As for you, KP, I'm really glad you're around! I'd go ahead and share my 2 million pounds gladly with you!
[Editor's note: KP, short for Kohr-Ah_Primat, pronounced like the short form of the drink "Caipirinha" - Caipi - consisting of 1 kiloton of limes, three huge mountains of white cane sugar, 5 kilotons of Cachaca and a polar ice-cap of an untouched class-M planet]
You wouldn't believe how light-headed I was travelling yesterday... Way out there (and it wasn't all booze that did the trick - I even would've gone 1 on 1 in the ring with an Ur-Quan fighting the ZFP's Galactic Gladiators, my Syreen being my coach and don't forget about the Thraddash guarding the ring...
LP, you must've encountered the Ur-Quan fans heading for the tournament - no wonder they didn't make it there until round four!
P.S.: My appointment with the "Umgah Clinic for Bionic Liver Implants for Humans" comes up next week ;-)
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Greetings from the German Nightmare - Up the Irons!
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FakeMccoy
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Some substances are real, some substances aren't. Tzo crystal obviously aren't real, and I've never of Aguuti Nodules, personally I think it should be renamed to "superfluid" since that's a more scientific thing that people have heard of, or "string matter" like a concentration of those strings from string theory. Degenerate matter is real, it is the point where normal matter is compressed so much that electrons cannot occupy lower energy levels and change their orbital structures to very weird shapes to compensate for the close proximety. At this point electrons tend to form a fluid rather than a solid and form a superfluid, while neutrons have interacting nuclear forces and gravitational forces, but also have a much smaller radius than electrons and so can be condensed more and form a more crystalline solid. After neutron degeneracy there is a predicted quark-degenerate matter, and after that scientists don't know what happens because that's when a black hole starts forming. The particles don't get expelled, yet they cannot exist at that high of a density in any form of matter we know of today, so they either must combine to form another particle with different oscillation modes that are sustainable in that high of an energy or they must interact with the fabric of space in same way with extra dimensions to explain why they aren't crushed out of existence.
Magnetic monopoles are not real, they are a fictional object prodicted to exist but never proven. What happens is no matter how many times you break a magnet apart, there are always two poles to each piece you break. Even individual electrons and protons have di-pole characteristics. The predicted magnetic monopoles are exactly as they sound, matter that somehow doesn't have two poles, but instead only has one pole.
Some other exotic matter I think that should be thrown in are as I said before superfluid, but also there should be anti-gravity crystals, or crystals that distort space and interact with higg's bosons in a manner opposite of gravity. Technically that doesn't really make sense and can't really exist because that would mean you are creating a repulsion of Higg's bosons via some kind of field, however gravity is only measured through the posetive interaction of other matter, so if there is no other matter around the anti-gravity crystals there's really nothing to "push away", you can't have less than 0 higg's particles in space, you can only 0 higg's or increased densities of coupling. The game however, already assumes magnetic monopoles exist and so it might as well assume anti-gravity crystals exist.
There is also another thing that could maybe exist which is imaginary energy and imaginary matter. As strange as it sounds, as it turns out there is sort of a whole flip-side to reality that is created by th mathematics of imaginary numbers which you can see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_number
The virtual particles that carry forces between particles consist of imaginary energy which is why they are not measured as having physically real existence until they already interact with something through a coupling mechanism in an oscillation field which combines imaginary components of the imaginary oscillation of both the virtual particle and the parent or daughter particle it is interacting with, and the same goes for Higg's Bosons. In a way, billions of particles around us exist in a semi-real manner, but the game could perhaps have another type of degenerate matter that is somehow a concentration of this imaginary energy/matter that is going through phases of fluxtuation through interacting with real reality which allows it to be detected as an anomaly.
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In particular, electrons constrained tightly in 2 dimensions can form a Luttinger Liquid, and if constrained in 1 dimension under a high magnetic field, the resulting quantum Hall states can form a liquid.
Now... superfluids aren't really raw materials. It's just a bunch of superchilled atoms which happen to have an even number of neutrons and don't form crystals at low temperature, which basically means... He(4).
Degenerate matter is real, it is the point where normal matter is compressed so much that electrons cannot occupy lower energy levels and change their orbital structures to very weird shapes to compensate for the close proximety
That's an inaccurate way of putting it. Electron-degenerate matter is characterized by things being packed together so tightly that the electronic states are determined nearly entirely by quantum confinement, with a trivial contribution from local potentials (neutron-degerate matter is the same thing but with neutrons). This means that the structures are in fact the least weird possible: they're basically particle-in-a-box states, which are very simple, and not potentially complicated orbitals.
Fake... you addressed at least four distinct topics in one paragraph. Please, split things up at reasonable points.
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FakeMccoy
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It's not exactly a raw material but neither is degenerate matter or Tzo crystals or Aguuti nodules.Theoretically it "can" theoretically occur naturally, you can hold it in a vile and keep it that way as long as it remains cooled and there aren't any micro-cracks, and scientists are trying to use it for both quantum and new fiber optic computers. However, just like with cold fusion, there may be a away to stimulate those quantum effects without a substance being super cold anyway.
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I tried. I really tried.
Fiber optic computers with superfluids? Cold Fusion?
We really need a good Star Control facepalm.
Since I could find none...
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FakeMccoy
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As if you a actually had any authority to discredit those things. Google announced they were coming out with a fiber optics computer and scientists are being funded to create quantum computers, the prototypes of which used superfluid to create a dense enough field to slow down light (not relativistically) so that it can be analyzed, and then on top of that some Japanese or scientists made progress with the instantaneous transportation of light particles using entangled particle systems. And then cold fusion has been worked on for a long time, there's been progress with some kind of titanium alloy. People don't seem to understand that it's the same as normal fusion with the oscillation modes changing such that the boundaries overlap enough that nucleons form stable gluon bonds, the difference is that cold fusion should be more efficient because your suppose to be able to use lasers to ionize nucleons so that they have enough energy to form a larger nucleus which can theoretically be done at room temperature. It's not limited to lasers but its suppose to be one of the most efficient ways so far, the problem is its not efficient enough.
By the way super-fluids aren't JUST chilled atoms, they are child atoms with at least 7% of the atoms existing in a state of constant entanglement which is enough to give the entire super-fluid substance the visible properties of correlation. Super-fluid helium itself is friction-less, which can be used to create a perpetual motion device and it can fall through micro-cracks only nano-meters wide, a truly unique substance that should be harnessed.
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Google can announce a fiber optic computer, that's fine. We work with superfluids in my lab, that's fine too. You don't make fiber optic computers with superfluids, is my point.
Cold Fusion has been worked on for a long time, and never been convincingly replicated. My poking around on the web turned up nothing to do with titanium alloys, but I did see something with hydrated nickel. That was utterly bogus as a demonstration. I wouldn't have been convinced by that as a classroom demo if it were accepted science. No gamma ray detector, no neutron detector, just excess heat which could have been snuck in through doctored power cables.
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FakeMccoy
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Google can announce a fiber optic computer, that's fine. We work with superfluids in my lab, that's fine too. You don't make fiber optic computers with superfluids, is my point.
Cold Fusion has been worked on for a long time, and never been convincingly replicated. My poking around on the web turned up nothing to do with titanium alloys, but I did see something with hydrated nickel.
I don't think it was titanium specifically, but it was some kind of "ti" starting alloy that I can't remember the name of, titanium, tritium, tri-strontium. You were right about the nickle hydrogen reactor as NASA had some development with that recently, i'm thinking it was "tritium" since I found this http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022072896049388 but I know it was something else, it was some kind of tri...oxide compound containing a metal which i thought was titanium, though there was a Thorium reactor that never got developed because Nixon preferred nuclear reactors, maybe that had something to do with it.
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