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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2003, 03:17:38 am »

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I think the game teaches us that slimy green bad guys are evil and that scantily-clad, blue babes are fun for everyone.  Isn't that what the game really teaches us?
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2003, 03:42:09 am »

Well, I thought the Ur-Quan weren't slimy. Anyway, they green ones are not nearly as evil as the BLACK ones...

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The best way to deal with a religious fanatic is to impersonate eir deity.
Psychic powers WORK!
If you become a slave trader, people will still work for you, but only for more money.
Mining to exhaustion and hunting to extinction are not merely acceptable, but the only way to go.
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2003, 03:57:46 am »


you know what it realy teaches us?

you do?

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its a secret.
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2003, 03:59:16 am »

Omni-Sama, that truely is what I would like to believe the game teaches us Cheesy

Death_999, that are some slight sideeffects when doing aggressive mining and hunting, although you don't really have to exhaust all the resources to win  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2003, 06:07:39 am »

This reminds me of discussions we had in English class: "This game is actually a social comment on the human condition."

Yeah, right.

Then again, it does portray humans as imperfect and downplays their importance in the galaxy, a lesson some people should learn in our modern world...  it's time to realise that we are not the centre of the universe, and that not everything revolves around us...  Grin  It's the perfect social comment, metaphorically speaking.
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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2003, 08:37:29 am »

Agreed!

I'm almost convinced that if you combined all the different stereotypes of all races you'd get your typical human with all his advantages and flaws. Good & evil, inventive & destructive, friendly & paranoid, foreseeing & ignorant - the list is endless...
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2003, 12:55:32 am »

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This reminds me of discussions we had in English class: "This game is actually a social comment on the human condition."


Well, everything we do or create reflects back on the real world somehow. Although I doubt most things are designed to be social comments, they tend to be anyway, one way or another.
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2003, 01:24:26 pm »

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I think the game teaches us that slimy green bad guys are evil and that scantily-clad, blue babes are fun for everyone.  Isn't that what the game really teaches us?


No.
In fact, the game goes to great lengths to show us that The Ur-Quan arent fueled by evil.
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2003, 05:55:07 pm »

Is that true?
I think that they maybe have once been nice and good and trusting, but that has changed and their deeds became evil, hence: they became evil. Paying back the universe the way they do is not justifiable in any way. Understandable maybe (given the human nature, almost natural) but still not good.
Call them misguided or revengeful, but I'd call those slimy green bad guys evil!
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2003, 06:42:12 pm »

Indeed. Evil is as evil does. The circumstances do not mitigate the actions. the quan, though they have had troubled times, are evil per se the definition that they do evil - in our opinion. In their own, it's a whole other story. Evil is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. Still, it's the same as blaming a murder on a traumatic childhood. If someone isn't actually absolutely insane, (which the Quan aint, they work much too rationally for that), you pay the price.
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« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2003, 10:35:34 pm »

When you enslave the human race under a bright red shield and destroy much of our history (not to mention Buenos Aires), it certainly doesn't mean the race is looking out for our well-being.  The Ur-Quan are very determined that what they are doing is essential, and that them enslaving or controlling races in the galaxy is saving them from their own demise.   However, that's a bit of an oxy moron.  Their intentions may not be evil, but their actions sure as heck are.
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