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Re: I could just puke!
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2003, 07:02:19 am »

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Iraqi citizens will only die if U.S. soldiers have to capture a city.


The US doesnt "HAVE" do do anything.

If I held a gun to your head, and told you not to move or you would die, and you moved, whose fault is it your dead?

Your quote is grossly wrong on many levels.
The US are acting like international thugs.
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Re: I could just puke!
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2003, 04:33:51 am »

Heh.  You said "do do"... heh huh huh huh... that was cool... yeah. huh huh
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2003, 06:30:42 pm »

Here's a good one. The Pkunk in this case are, say, Finland, and the Ur-Quan are Iraq. Humans are the U.S.

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The fight.  Always the fight.  We Pkunk are Yin and you are Yang.
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Re: I could just puke!
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2003, 01:08:51 am »

Why is Finland the Pkunk? We don't seem to have that many similarities really...
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Re: I could just puke!
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2003, 01:20:43 am »

So, J, you seem to think that every Iraqi is like the VUX... they want to be in the heirarchy... but you forget that there are also Spathi; they don't want to be in it but hey can't leave safely!  You would seemingly argue that every action the human commander in UQM took was immoral -- he had "NO RIGHT WHATSOVER" to attack the Thraddash and steal their Aqua Helix!  NO RIGHT to send the Syreen to fight the Mycon -- after all, its ANOTHER country...  Despite the whole "end of all non-Ur-Quan sentient life" you would say the capitan is not justified?

Digressing slightly from the SC metaphor, this reminds me of a political cartoon I saw today... a protestor was holding up a sign that read "It's bad enough WE have to live in a democracy!  Must we inflict it on others too?"
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2003, 01:54:57 am »

Correct. The proper course of action would ahve been to let the Kohr-Ah extinguish  all sentient life. At least we would have gone down with outr heads held high, instead of living on in this eternal sahme..

sweriously, this RL comparison is a bit silly, isn't it? But, if it must continue, then I will be the Arilou, and tell all you children to be careful, or something might *smell* you. I may be a *smell* controller. But there aren't that many of us around, so be careful yall!
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2003, 12:48:48 am »

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Why is Finland the Pkunk? We don't seem to have that many similarities really...


In this case, because our attitude towards the war is much the same as the Pkunks' attitude towards the Slave Revolt, or whatever it is.
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2003, 01:07:51 am »

Seeing as we aren't fighting another war at the same time, against a foe that is about to make us pass from the physical plane by way of sacrifing us to their dark gods, I'd say we aren't quite. the Pkunk, for all their talk of peace and love and harmony, are fighting the Ilwrath. Finaland on the other hand isn't.

Also the Pkunk are peaceloving spiritual ebings. If you've ever been in a bar in Finalöand on a Saturday night, you'll see the same often cannot be said for us....
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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2003, 03:33:30 am »

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Here's a good one. The Pkunk in this case are, say, Finland, and the Ur-Quan are Iraq. Humans are the U.S.



The Iraqi Hierarchy of Battle Thralls? I don't like the sound of that.  Shocked
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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2003, 04:26:32 pm »

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Seeing as we aren't fighting another war at the same time, against a foe that is about to make us pass from the physical plane by way of sacrifing us to their dark gods, I'd say we aren't quite. the Pkunk, for all their talk of peace and love and harmony, are fighting the Ilwrath. Finaland on the other hand isn't.

Also the Pkunk are peaceloving spiritual ebings. If you've ever been in a bar in Finalöand on a Saturday night, you'll see the same often cannot be said for us....


Yes, yes, yes, but my point here is that we tend to view George W. Bush as a moron, and Saddam Hussein as a bigger moron.
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Re: I could just puke!
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2003, 04:36:52 pm »

Saddam Hussein is _NOT_ a moron.
He has shown supervillain like intelligence in his planning
his is a very bad man tho
Bush = Well Meaning Moron
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« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2003, 04:56:35 pm »

Supervillain like intelligence? did I miss something here?

Oh, and Kizor, I suppose I have to concede your point on that one. Although I always got the impression that the Pkunk didn't look at people as morons, just less enlightened beings. Still, that way we are similar I suppose.
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Some ideas for Dubya
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2003, 08:34:09 pm »

Here's a couple of ideas that wanna-be president could do:

1st: Stop polluting the environment like you have another planet in your basement
2nd: Pay your fees to the U.N. ontime and regularly - not only if you want something from them
3rd: Learn about the world as a whole and not only "America first" (Dubya has been to ONE foreign country before he got president - and that was Mexico! Oohwee! Yehaw!)
4th: Follow the U.N. Charta and the Geneva Convention. Just because you're the U.S. doesn't mean that might makes right.
5th: Spend more money on developing 3rd world countries. Right now 3 days of running your military (in times of peace) equals the amount of $$$ spent in a whole year for that.
6th: Solve your own problems first before you want to change the world (unemployment, medical care, gun control, education etc.)... that splinter in your own eye thing!
7th: Don't re-elect that religious fanatic crusader - pick someone smart  Wink
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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2003, 09:01:00 pm »

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Here's a couple of ideas that wanna-be president could do:
3rd: Learn about the world as a whole and not only "America first" (Dubya has been to ONE foreign country before he got president - and that was Mexico! Oohwee! Yehaw!)


Bush is the president of the United States, not the world.  He should be focusing on "America first", that is his job.

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4th: Follow the U.N. Charta and the Geneva Convention. Just because you're the U.S. doesn't mean that might makes right.


um, when have we not followed the geneva convention?  It is Saddam who has/was trying to make biological/chemical weapons.  As for the UN charter, the UN has increasingly become just like the League of Nations -- defunct.  The only sort of global government that will work is a sort of "global EU" that has ACTUAL athourity.

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5th: Spend more money on developing 3rd world countries. Right now 3 days of running your military (in times of peace) equals the amount of $$$ spent in a whole year for that.


take your own advice and "first remove the wooden beam from your own eye, that you may see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's."  Every country in the world has a military.

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6th: Solve your own problems first before you want to change the world (unemployment, medical care, gun control, education etc.)... that splinter in your own eye thing!


The US has some of the best medical care in the world.  I agree that our public education system needs some reform, but solving that doesn't necessarily mean we can't "change the world."  In fact this contradicts your earlier point of "not America first".  Also, who sez gun control is a problem?  just look at Britain's crime rate!  More laws that the bad people will break anyway aren't the answer.

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7th: Don't re-elect that religious fanatic crusader - pick someone smart  Wink


But, GM!  Bush was picked with only the most complicated strategery!  lol... seriously though think "lesser of two morons" and you'll understand why Bush was elected.
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Re: Some ideas for Dubya
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2003, 09:23:21 pm »

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um, when have we not followed the geneva
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Principally, the fighters of the Taliban and Al Qaeda that we captured in Afghanistan are considered by Bush not to be prisoners of war (which they really are). Since they are non-citizens to boot, he has avoided treating them according to the restrictions of the Geneva Conventions OR the constitutional protections.

Second, if we're going to pick nits that the Iraqis publicly humiliated our soldiers on TV (a violation of the Geneva Conventions, even in the absence of the TV), then we should be willing to admit that we publicly humiliated theirs too, by showing them, kneeling, hands-on head, with US soldiers standing over them with guns pointed at them, on international TV. That's very humiliating, and extremely public.

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