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Death 999
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We did. You did. Yes we can. No.
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Quite possibly, though I wouldn't want to overdo it.
Psychopharmacology has been hamstrung by the premature classification of a variety of things as useless.
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I'm not that impressed with Psylocybin, which i tried a couple of times. Sure it leads to some new insights, but the effects are not always permanent. I'm more fan of methoxetamine, which makes you look at the world in a less biased view.
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I'm not that impressed with Psylocybin, which i tried a couple of times. Sure it leads to some new insights, but the effects are not always permanent. I'm more fan of methoxetamine, which makes you look at the world in a less biased view.
I have never tried methoxetamine, but it seems to be a dissociative drug (NMDA receptor antagonist), like Ketamine and PCP. These drugs are more toxic and addictive than 5-HT2A receptor agonists, like psilocybin and LSD.
I like Ibogaine more than magic mushrooms, but it is also more toxic (dangerous) than magic mushrooms. I like magic mushrooms because they aren't additive, have a low toxicity and are easy for people to grow. LSD might be a better choice, but it is difficult for people to make. Mescaline is also an interesting drug, but the cacti grow very slowly, unlike mushrooms. There is also much more research on psilocybin than on other psychedelics (http://www.citypaper.com/news/features/bcp-032917-feature-psychedelics-20170328-25-story.html),
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I think the magic mushrooms are nice in the moment itself but after that there's little left of it. Methoxetamine is indeed a dissociative but not very well comparable with ketamine, since it's more of a spiritual experience which makes you distill things to their core values instead of just feeling weird  .
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You know - magic mushrooms can also make you hallucinations like from the nightmare and make you mad.
I don't know about the "make you mad" part, but they can certainly give you a "bad trip". I agree that kids and teenagers probably shouldn't be exposed to such experiences, but I don't necessarily think adults shouldn't be exposed to such experiences. Exposing adults to a bit of fear, might be a good thing. For example, many people seem to think that having Donald Trump as a president is lots of fun. But it isn't necessarily funny for people dying from lack of health insurance, and it won't be funny for any of us if he starts a nuclear war. I think "bad trips" aren't necessarily so bad, since they might make us take life a bit more seriously. And a mushroom induced "bad trip" doesn't even come close to an ibogaine induced bad trip, since you can actually die from ibogaine, and it lasts 3 times longer. Why are western Europeans and Americans such pussies compared to the Bwiti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bwiti), in Gabon?
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Because I don't like to meddle with my brainchemistry at all.
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For adults that have attended a Montessorian type of education, psychedelics might not be necessary. It is mostly beneficial for people that have attended a traditional type of education which destroyed their intellectual curiosity. In such a case, psychedelics might reignite the flame of intellectual curiosity, or reawake a desire for learning.
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The meaning of life is that there is a dragon on your fridge trying to eat you when you reach for the orange juice in it?
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