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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2003, 09:14:13 am »

I hate the damnable AI and it's cheap shield techniques.
Gee... I wish I could *see* a laser bolt in mid flight, calculate whether or not it will hit my ship, and activate my shields, all before I'm hit by them. *rolls eyes*
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2003, 10:12:06 pm »

I'm not the most patient melee fighter... or even the most tactically-advantaged... or even good at melee at all, for that matter.  I'm pretty impulsive when it comes to pushing the trigger button.  That's also why the Terminator and Jugger seem to tear any ship I'm flying to pieces, no matter how hard I try for them not to.  I guess there are some little tactics you can use to improve your odds of winning, but I seem to have ignored them altogether.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2003, 04:18:10 am »

There's also the fact that you sometimes might tear yourself away from the game long enough to realize that if you were to invest the effort in becoming an excellent melee fighter, then all your hours of training and practice would result in you only being able to say that you're an accomplished melee fighter in a DOS-based game that was made over a decade ago.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2003, 10:05:05 am »

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There's also the fact that you sometimes might tear yourself away from the game long enough to realize that if you were to invest the effort in becoming an excellent melee fighter, then all your hours of training and practice would result in you only being able to say that you're an accomplished melee fighter in a DOS-based game that was made over a decade ago.

Shhhhh... I wouldn't say that out loud here!  A lot of the people on these forums have devoted their entire lives to mastering the tehcniques of the super melee!  Don't tell them SC2 is just a game!  It would shatter their self-esteems, or lack thereof...!!!
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2003, 10:27:32 am »

This is true, but then sometimes you grow past that and accept the realization that really, what else ARE you going to do with your life? Everything people do is a diversion to distract them from the fact that their lives in and of themselves are really boring. Watching tv, going to the movies, playing ping pong, playing video games, playing computer games on the internet with other people, building models--- most people spend their entire lives trying to pass the time in frivolous ways.

Once you accept that, and are peachy with that, then you can go right back to spending endless amounts of time trying to become an elite supermelee fighter on a game that was released a dozen years ago, and you can do it without having your world fall apart around you. Tongue
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This is true, but then sometimes you grow past that and accept the realization that really, what else ARE you going to do with your life? Everything people do is a diversion to distract them from the fact that their lives in and of themselves are really boring. Watching tv, going to the movies, playing ping pong, playing video games, playing computer games on the internet with other people, building models--- most people spend their entire lives trying to pass the time in frivolous ways.

Once you accept that, and are peachy with that, then you can go right back to spending endless amounts of time trying to become an elite supermelee fighter on a game that was released a dozen years ago, and you can do it without having your world fall apart around you. Tongue

Wow.  That was really depressing...  I'm going to go dig myself a hole out in the woods and sit in it for a while.  While I'm there, I will cry and think about the worthlessness of my life.   Cry  How could I spend so many days and nights doing homework or watching reality TV when Star Control II has always been there for me?  Why couldn't I be there for SC2 when it needed me most?  It was always there for me.  I'm so bad at melee, and it's all my fault!  If only there was a way to turn back time, so that all the free time I ever had could be filled up by supermelee...  if only I could right the ship that went so wrong long ago...  *sighs*   Cry
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2003, 11:02:31 am »

*rolls eyes, and then pats reassuringly*
You're young, you're only 17.
You've still time to turn your life around.

Just buy an espresso machine and learn to function without sleep, and devote your life to SuperMelee. After about six months you might start to feel like you've caught up on most of those wasted years.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2003, 06:47:12 pm »

Yeah, quadruple espressos can really do wonders for your flying abilities. Even the computer has trouple hitting a caffeine crazed pilot who hasn't slept for a week...

As for life being boring... The most important thing to rememeber is that even though ones life might be dull, mediocre and mundane on the outside, it's what's on the inside that matters. Look at my mind, or GM's. Even though we may do the same boring stuff as everyone else (eat, sleep, study, work and so on), inside our minds, there are only bright fireworks and happy shiny colours.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2003, 10:59:27 pm »

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This is true, but then sometimes you grow past that and accept the realization that really, what else ARE you going to do with your life? Everything people do is a diversion to distract them from the fact that their lives in and of themselves are really boring. Watching tv, going to the movies, playing ping pong, playing video games, playing computer games on the internet with other people, building models--- most people spend their entire lives trying to pass the time in frivolous ways.

yes, that is really depressing. The way I see it though, there's no such thing as wasting your life. Playing ping-pong and going to the movies are not ways to pass the time. That is life. Monks spend their entire lives in search of inner peace, sometimes going for weeks just staring and sitting in one place. There's no argument from me that what they're doing is a waste. As long as what you are doing makes you happy, isn't that all there is to it? If you don't like what you're doing, then, yes, you might say you are wasting your time, but only the time you could have used to be happy.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2003, 05:56:27 am »

Well as they say... Smelling the colors is the best game...
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Wow.  That was really depressing...  I'm going to go dig myself a hole out in the woods and sit in it for a while.  While I'm there, I will cry and think about the worthlessness of my life.   Cry

Hehe.  I was being sarcastic, by the way.  I love life.  There's no where else I'd rather be...  well, because there's nowhere else I could be.  But ignore that.  I was just thinking about how every bleeding second in my life could have been consumed by Star Control 2!  But alas...  I guess we can't all be perfect.
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2003, 06:32:01 pm »

You guys are going waay off topic here  Grin.
How soon do kohr-ah defat ur-quan? I remeber that one of  of my games ended like that when I was playing the old sc2 years ago. Is there something in the game that influences how fast the war is over? I think I remember someone saying that it would be dependent on the technological level of the player's precursor vessel, but I'm not sure. Or is it at some pre-fixed year? What do you think?
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2003, 07:15:47 pm »

As far as I know, the Kohr-Ah defeat the Ur-Quan at a certain date, but this date can be pushed back a year or two by decreasing the Kohr-Ah's numerical superiority (i.e. killing thousands of them). You can't really do this by yourself; you'll have to get someone else to do it.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2003, 07:19:29 pm »

Quoting yourself now Omni? That's a sign of... well, it's a sign of soemthing that's for sure. As soon as I've figured out what it's a sign of, I'll be back. I only pray to god that it sin't too late by then...

As for the Kohr-Ah vs Kzer-Za, yeah, it's a prefixed date that can be pushed back a little, just like novus sais. UIt has nothing to do AFAIK with the level of technology on your ship, you can't actually destroy the entire fleet on your own. It'd be just a tad unrealistic...
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2003, 08:51:56 pm »

Well, such things have been done before in real life... like the two frigates the British sent to China took out their entire fleet. Okay, it's two ships instead of one, but you get the idea.
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