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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2003, 03:54:38 am »

I have a bit of a personal theory that perhaps as things stand, we might actually be the 'Precursors' to other alien races that might spring up on other planets in time. After all, someone has to be first. Why not us? (Well, us and the Arilou, it seems.)

For some reason when I first played SC2, I got a tremendous kick out of the concept of invading alien worlds, and kidnapping the indigenous life forms. It made me ponder if that's what's in store for humanity's future---visiting alien worlds, kidnapping members of the alien species, and performing experiments on them before allowing them to return to their planet.
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2003, 04:31:40 am »

You are evil, aren't you Smiley

It does raise an interesting point. Look at how we are doing nowadays. If we ever get the technology and opportunity to interact with another sentient species, at a lower technology level than us, what would happen?

Perhaps the Shofixti won't be the threat to the universe -we will.

On another tanget concerning the Sentient Milieu. Do you think there's more Taalo technology in Orz space? If everything they made looks like rocks, then there might be a whole bunch of technological goodies right under our noses.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2003, 02:29:17 am »

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Actually if you work this out fully mathematically. You get a very simple equation.
Start with the known principle that there is an infinite amount of space out there. Next that in this infinite amount of space there exists some number of stars (the exact amount isn't needed, for our sake it is also an infinte number). This means there should be an infinite number of planets in an infinte number of stars. However since not every planet contains life on it, there must be a finite number of planets containing life.


er... dividing infinity by a large number yields infinity. Which is I guess the thrust of your later joke. Didn't this come from HHGttG?

Also, I think that unless we get over our current economic model which promotes unchecked exploitation, we will be bombed back to the stone age by those we are exploiting long before we get to the stars. Which suggests, since Humans are adaptible, that we will choose a more sustainable economic model... or at least one which isn't so liable to generate violent opposition.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2003, 03:05:31 am »

what do you think Sentient Milleu ships would look like?

The Mael-Num would have a curious resemblance to the Trader.
The Taalo would probably be somewhat like the Clairconctlar(sorry) ship would, cold, dark and powerful

ehh
i dunno, what do you think?
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2003, 04:59:10 am »

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Also, I think that unless we get over our current economic model which promotes unchecked exploitation, we will be bombed back to the stone age by those we are exploiting long before we get to the stars. Which suggests, since Humans are adaptible, that we will choose a more sustainable economic model... or at least one which isn't so liable to generate violent opposition.


Hmm, the US and rest of the West trades lot with places like South Korea and Japan, both of whom were very impoverished after World War II (South Korea was definitely poorer than the Middle East or most of Africa), and they're now wealthy.  Meanwhile, the poorest countries are precisely those whom the "current economic model" doesn't interact with at all, like North Korea or Cuba, or the African nations.  (Exploitation?  There's barely any trade one way or the other with the African nations.  We're perhaps guilty of ignoring Africa, not exploiting it.)

Your hypothesis makes no sense at all, since the more the current economic model interacts with another country, the wealthier it is.  The poor countries aren't exploited, they're ignored.  Furthermore, one could point out that most of the current bombers are middle class or well off in their own countries.  The opposition mainly stems from violent cultural rejection of modern culture (with the violence and the sex and the booze and the homosexuality and the other fun stuff) combined with the belief in dramatically ignorant economic views like yours.
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2003, 06:53:51 am »

WELLL... note that the Africans aren't the ones bombing us. It's the people whose resources we're pillaging, thus funding the usually corrupt landowning elites without bringing in any significant investment in the nations themselves.

btw nice flameage with the "dramatically ignorant economic views"
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