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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2003, 06:25:31 am »

BioSlayer: There's so many things wrong with that theory it's not even funny, but it's good that you're thinking outside of the box. So then why do Orz starship commanders have such deep voices when they so *GO*? And why is one of the Orz commanders named *Boy* and another with the somewhat masculine title of *Loner*?
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2003, 07:26:58 am »

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BioSlayer: There's so many things wrong with that theory it's not even funny, but it's good that you're thinking outside of the box. So then why do Orz starship commanders have such deep voices when they so *GO*? And why is one of the Orz commanders named *Boy* and another with the somewhat masculine title of *Loner*?

have you never heard of a women with a deep voice. maybe its something to do with the fact that they are fish. have you ever heard a real talking fish then how do you know that their voices arnt deep?
as for the name boy, ever heard of tomy boy? or maybe its a cross dressor.

also you are comparing them too humans you know not every race has the male as the dominate species.

the things you listed as wrong are so minor have anything that can put a gaping hole in my theory?
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2003, 07:35:21 am »

The sheer ridiculousness of your theory is a gaping hole in itself. I'm not wasting any more time on it. It doesn't even have anything to do with Arilou/Syreen/Earthling connections.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2003, 08:24:26 am »

I have to admit, it did get a lot of giggles out of me though.

Anyways, I just imagine that humans *are* directly genetically linked to the Arilou, whereas the similarity of the Syreen are examples of a cosmic coincidence of incredible proportions. Talana's dialogue when you first encounter her seems to suggest just that very idea; it's a strong coincidence that was probably helped (slightly) along by Eden and Earth's almost identical mass/climate/atmosphere/etc. And yes, I am aware that even the most minute factors in an enviroment can create tremendous changes over time. Or even cancel each other out for that matter.

There are creatures in Earth's ecosystem that are genetically different, but the are very similar in nature and appearance and have a similar niche in their environment. Syreen and Humans I believe *did* evolve independently, and the similarity of their genetics as is, is incredibly coincidental, but I do think it's still a coincidence. There are still some slightly notable differences in genetic composition, after all. Such as blue skin and glowing green eyes.... (Note that even similar or near-identical phenotypes can still conceal strongly differing genotypes.)

*ponders the similarities of the VUX to the Spathi in the meantime* Both of them have one eye, both of them are mollusks (one's a clam, the other's a squid) and they're both green. They are both considered ugly by human standards ("ewww, you guys are all gross with those gooey eyeballs and stuff. Ick!") and they both use tentacle-like appendages to operate their controls.

Alright, so they're not -that- similar. But they are an example of completely independent species' evolution taking steps in similar directions.

(Btw, I don't suppose anyone has picked up on my fascination with genetics by now, have they? Tongue)
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2003, 02:49:20 pm »

The Spathi and VUX might look similar, but Humans and Syreen can reproduce and create a Hybrid!
If you can call it a Hybrid at all.. After all according to science if two creatures can have fertile offspring then they're of the same species.
Sure the skin and eye color is different, but hey - we have those on earth already! White people, black people, yellow people and they all have different eye colors. The fact it, the genetic difference between the Humans and Syreen is VERY small.

Now when it comes to the Arilou, we don't know if we're genetically close to them or not. All we know is that they look a bit like us, with two eyes, one head and all that. But half the Galaxy looks like that in SC2....


So it might be a coincidence that Human and Syreen have the same DNA, it's even possible in the real world, but that chances are SOOOOOOOOO small, that it's more likely that the Ur-quan are responsible for it somehow Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2003, 03:07:24 pm »

First of all :  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Welcome back BioSlayer! That is actually a funny theory, which had me smiling quite broadly. It's quite good as well. Although there is no way in hell you'l ever prove it, and there are a few things talking against it (such as the consensus on the fact that the Orz is actually one single entity from another dimension, rather than a group of beings, mutated females or not), but nevertheless, it's a good theory. Might be worth pondering for a bit.

I agree with UAF, the fact that Humans and Syreen can crossbreed is very suspect, it does imply some sort of interaction in the past... But how did you get the Quan mixed up into that?
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2003, 06:15:42 pm »

I just said that the chances that it happened naturally are SOOOO slime that I'll believe someone who'll blame the Ur-quan for that before I'll believe it's a coincidence.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2003, 01:46:32 am »

Hehe... in honour of the strangest theory I have ever heard, I have come up with my own that is just as strange.   Grin

The Orz are bisexual.  Yep, you heard me.  That's why their voice is so high when you talk to them on their bridge, but their "GO, GO" voices are so masculine.  They just can't make up their minds.

If you couldn't guess, I'm mocking the fact that BioSlayer has changed the very nature of this topic into something widely different, so for the sake of sanity, let me bring it back to its original purpose.  The humans seem more ambitious and outgoing than the Syreen.  The Arilou seem to respect this very "child-like", "curious" behaviour because it intrigues a race as wise as them.  The spontenaity (sp?) of human beings seems a lot less predictable than that of the Syreen, appealing to the curious nature of the Arilou and their scheming ways.   Cool
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2003, 04:18:20 am »

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 The Orz are bisexual.
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.

You probably mean 'hermaphroditic' as in having both genders.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2003, 05:33:26 am »

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The sheer ridiculousness of your theory is a gaping hole in itself. I'm not wasting any more time on it. It doesn't even have anything to do with Arilou/Syreen/Earthling connections.

It does have something to do with Arilou/Syreen/Earthling connection, they dont like the color blue.

but it realy could do with something about the fact that the syreen are telepathic.

there is no way in hell that you can disprove my theory that the arilou want OUR women.  Grin


^ment as a joke not a sexist additude^
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2003, 05:38:49 am »

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I just said that the chances that it happened naturally are SOOOO slime that I'll believe someone who'll blame the Ur-quan for that before I'll believe it's a coincidence.

I blame the VUX
yep the syreen are a failed attempt to change us to be less ugly they were going for green but they ran out of yellow and they got blue.
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Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2003, 04:27:43 am »

To return to the real topic of this thread:

They are sneaky little bastards and noone will ever understand their motivation until we become dense enough to go visit their planet and find it full with beautiful, blue Syreen females - knife included!

That's what I'd do if I were an Arilalilou...
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2003, 08:03:00 pm »

Actually, 'bisexual' has two meanings. One, having some kind of ability to be both genders, either through automatic sex change, like some frogs (and thus the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park), or functional hermaphroditism (like worms). The other is the one with which I'm sure we're all familiar.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2003, 08:54:34 pm »

I imagine the Syreen race was also a bit more advanced than the human race, the former having reached space a bit sooner than the latter. (I could be wrong.)

Humans are so... primitive. So crude, so instinctive.
That's what fascinates the Arilou the most.

A bunch of bloody monkeys we are, sitting on our asses in their own personal zoo, doing tricks to entertain them.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2003, 09:24:50 pm »

I might be wrong, but I think the Syreen space cities didn't have Hyperspace ability when the Alliance first met them.
So the Syreen weren't much more advanced then the Humans.
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