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Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« on: April 10, 2003, 11:03:14 am »

It's fair that the Arilou don't give a crap about the Androsynth, seeing as how they're just an invention that backfired (with many flaws no doubt), but what's wrong with the Syreen? Shouldn't they be just as valuable to the Arilou as us humans?
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 11:32:00 am »

And shouldn't the VUX despise Syreen just as badly as Humans, and Androsynth for that matter, and rant about how ugly they are?
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 03:10:06 pm »

The VUX *do* hate the Syreen, I think. It just doesn't really come up. That or the Syreen are somehow empathic (shades of SC3?) or something, and the VUX buy into it (they're not the swiftest people in the galaxy).

The VUX probably don't hate the Androsynth for several reasons. First, they're Hierarchy members, willing to fight against the Humans, Syreen, and other disgusting beasts. As long as you don't look at them too often you should be fine. Second, they're not "real." I imagine there are certain biological functions the VUX find distasteful that the Androsynth just don't/didn't do. Third, the Ur-Quan would slap them around if they didn't behave.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2003, 06:44:28 pm »

I also seem to recall that the VUX actually tells you that you're just as ugly as the androsynth, so they do dislike the Synths... They're just afraid of the Quans... They may well hate synths, but they fear the Quans...

Also, I think there is a simple reason for the Syreen not interesting the Arilou... Instincts. i seem to recall that the Syreen tell you that they evolved in a completely different way culturally, with the farmers gaining control rather than the hunters, which gave them a much more peacful histtory. SO they wouldn't necessarily have the same set of killer instincts that we do. And the Arilou do seem fascinated by instincts.... They don't have any ya'll know...
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2003, 08:10:48 pm »

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It's fair that the Arilou don't give a crap about the Androsynth, seeing as how they're just an invention that backfired (with many flaws no doubt), but what's wrong with the Syreen? Shouldn't they be just as valuable to the Arilou as us humans?


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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2003, 08:57:06 pm »

I would imagine the VUX think Androsynth and Syreen are just as ugly as Humans.  Unless they like Blue skin more...

I also haven't seen it mentioned yet, but y'all are forgetting about the highly publicized "incident" between the VUX and Humans.  The one where the VUX hear a human captain insult their appearance.

The Arilou might just like the humans more because well, the player is a human and its creepier for them to only have an interest so much in the humans/player.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2003, 09:23:28 pm »

I don't think the incident has been mentioned because the VUX pretty much say it didn't matter.  All that talk about an insult was really just an excuse so they could kill you and stop looking at you.

And I figure the arilou aren't interested cause they aren't working on the synth or the syreen.  Aren't that many arilou around to begin with, and guiding the development of a culture is likely a pretty big task.  Might not be up to doing it on two, and they just chose us.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2003, 10:09:48 pm »

Actually!

the reason for the Arilou having special interest in Humans is intentionally left unexplained. TFB's idea was to leave them mysterious, where they might eventually come out as either evil or with otherwise immoral cause. They don't explain it (TFB), but they hint, in one of the fan-chat protocols, that the Arilou might have some 'higher purpose' for us.

In other words, they might be as nice as they are to us for their own selfish reasons yet to be discovered (SC3?)..
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2003, 10:11:50 pm »

I seem to recall being a hint somewhere that the Syreen may have been transplanted Earthlings... (or maybe I'm watching too much Stargate... whatever.)  If this is true the Syreen might be the control group in whatever experimenth te Arilou are conducting.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2003, 10:23:36 pm »

dude! are there Syreen in Stagate? I shall definetly have to look closer....
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2003, 01:57:50 am »

I don't know if ErekLich saw it in the old TW forums, but in a similar discussion there an idea was brought up that the Human and Syreen are the same race, and one group was transferred to the another planet. The Humans had experiments done to them, while the Syreen are a control group.
When you think about it, maybe both groups had experiments done to them, but the Syreen project failed, the Human project didn't... yet...
Maybe there are more almost-Human races out there, other experiments and projects of the Arilou.

As for the Synth, we don't know if the Arilou didn't care for them at all, but after all the changes we made to our "children" maybe we ruined what the Arilou find interesting in our race.
Also, the Synth can only reproduce by cloning themselves, which mean that they don't evolve unless they'll mess with their genes, so they might again ruin anything the Arilou would try to do.


Another interesting possibility that just occurred to me- what if it's not just Humans that the Arilou are interested in, but earth as well. Our planet might be some kind of "slippery place" or just a big Arilou device, and one thing the Syreen and Synth definitely have different then Humans is that they don't live on earth.
To support this, I don't remember that the Arilou showed any real interest in the earthling colony on Vega. All they care about are the Humans on earth, and the things that effect them.
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2003, 02:09:37 am »

Hmmm... I sem to recall an Arilou saying something about having visited Unzervalt "much more recently(than earth)"... So they do keep a presence there as well...It's an interesting iea about earth though, they were very pleased to see it slaveshielded. Maybe it was the planet they were thinking of....
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2003, 09:32:00 am »

Actually, in another thread I posted an indirect connection between humans, Arilou, and Syreen. It's one of those things that might just be a coincidence or might not mean anything, but something about the idea appeals to me.

Commander Hayes:
I like to think I'm not a bigoted person, Captain, especially when it comes to allies but there is just something about those Arilou that gives me the creeps.
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The Arilou, those creepy little weasels, just plain bugged out -- vanished...
No other race refers to the Arilou as being creepy. I think it must be some kind of instinct, perhaps another phenomenon that occurs in the game: genetic memory. Some races can directly remember their genetic memories (Mycon, Ur-Quan, Dnyarri) but in some others it only manifests on an emotional level.

I don't think the Arilou are very interested in the Syreen... anymore. This doesn't mean they didn't do some experimenting in the past though.

It's a long shot, sure, but I like the idea anyway. =)
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2003, 03:01:55 am »

Well, that seems to be a bit thin a parallell for me. i mean, most races in the Quadrant find the Traddash obnoxious. And most people found the Chenjesu wise. And ehy, everyone thinks that the Spathi are cowards! And so on and on...

That doesn't necessarily mena that there is a strong connection between the races....

Also, keep in mind that whatever Talana says, what we hear is translated to the closest best fit... So it might be that her word has subtle differences that the translator can't figure out.

Also, creepy can mean several things, no? Whereas the commander seems to mean creepy as in omnious somehow, maybe talana means creepy more in the way a stalekr is creepy? )Ok, long stretch, but still)
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Re: Why do Arilou favor Earthlings over Syreen?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2003, 04:57:41 am »

guys cant you see the obvious?
its because they are trying to create a female Arilou and they dont like the color blue!

see the whole thing is that the arilou are all males and guess what happend to all the females. they contracted a strange virus which turned them into fish like things. and the Arilou word for female is orz.
i just explained why there is some much hostility between them.
oh yea and the orz tryed to turn the androsyth into male fish like things.
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