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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2003, 10:49:16 am »

Congrats on your new title as *Smell* Controller, K-P!  Now get to bed and stop posting!!!  You're going to hurt your hand if you post anymore.   Grin  Plus, we'll both be Englightened in no time if we keep this up...   Roll Eyes

I think it's great that the Star Control fan community has revived the classic, not only bringing back the code, but breathing life back into this great game and series.  It would be neat to consider side projects, like a UQM2, but for now those things are just dreams.  I think that UQM was a great step in returning interest in this classic title and hopefully earn some new fans.  (I've certainly advertised it to alot of my buds... now they're addicted to the game I used to play for hours on end!).  I don't think we'll ever see a "pure", Star Control 2 sequel in the form of Paul and Fred's work, but I'll keep the dream alive as long as possible...  *sighs*  ... ... ...

... that's basically until now.   Tongue
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2003, 11:13:44 am »

Yeah, I'm getting sleepies too. *answers your last couple posts*

Personally, I'm having trouble getting nerdy GUYS to play this game. *narrows eyes* Maybe they think this is one of those so-called "cutesy girly games" or something.

Any suggestions, you guys?
*snarls evilly at the lot of you that suggest I offer them something 'extra' to get them to play the game*
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2003, 09:54:12 pm »

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Any suggestions, you guys?
*snarls evilly at the lot of you that suggest I offer them something 'extra' to get them to play the game*

Damn, that was my suggestion!!   Grin

I'd suggest learning about some of their favourite PC or Console game classics and then compare the game to them.  A lot of geeks and nerds (like myself Wink ) need a comparison before we can get the point of how good a game really is.  I would also suggest a demonstration of how the melee works, since most guys like shooting and explosions.  That or offer them something 'extra' to play.
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« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2003, 02:42:25 am »

I hate sounding corny when I say this... but what games does SC2/UQM really compare with? And no, that's not me saying 'this game is so great that no game can possibly match it'. I just can't think of any games that it would be aptly comparable with.
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2003, 07:50:00 am »

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Personally, I'm not into the whole concept of good and evil. I just feel there's actions, and there are consequences.


At the risk of re-jacking this thread, wouldn't you say an action that intentionally causes negative consequences is evil?
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« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2003, 07:59:36 am »

No, because there are so many actions that people define as evil, that are only caused by people who aren't fully aware of the consequences of what they do.

Besides, I intentionally attempt to bring grief and negative consequences to others. And I still for some bizarre reason am seen as a very sweet and kind individual to some folk despite it all...

Not to mention there are many folk who commit "heinous acts" of evil from the assumption or notion that what they do is truly good.

I think intentions are quite important in judging character, but I also think that good and evil are overly simplistic concepts that just don't apply very well to define people accurately.
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2003, 12:42:17 pm »

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I hate sounding corny when I say this... but what games does SC2/UQM really compare with? And no, that's not me saying 'this game is so great that no game can possibly match it'. I just can't think of any games that it would be aptly comparable with.


It depends on how you classify UQM. If you look at it as a sci-fi RPG, Starflight I've heard is pretty good. (However, I have a hard time getting over mining the first world. I run out of fuel too fast.)
If you're talking about a game with clever character design and somewhat interesting dialogs, then MOO kinda makes it (and was considerably commercially more successfull. However, it lacked a storyline.)
If you are considering the well concieved storyline with multple branching possibilities then perhaps you'd like to play FF7? (Not really sci-fi and let's face it, the battles were pretty lame.  Programming moves and waiting for your turnjust doesn't do it for me.)
However, if you're talking about a cleverly written game with fun characters, that successfully combines a story driven RPG style exploration with intense action fighting sequences, then, no game can compare with UQM.
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2003, 08:18:16 pm »

I like the action-consequence idea, to a point. But I'd still have to go with "If you do an action that causes negative consequences to others it is a bad action" kinda thing myself. Sort of like, it should be the obligation of anyone considering to act to also consider consequences beforehand. Of course, some consequences can't be foreseen in any way, but I'd consider that more mitigating circumstances than anything else. but then again, that's just me.

On the UQM series idea, I thinkl that's an excellent point. astable 1.0 version would give anyone a great place to start an attempt of creating a new sequel. TW doesn't seem to be doing so good at the mo, but you never know I suppose. They might still surprise us.
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Re: Does it bug anyone that is working on this?
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2003, 09:12:41 pm »

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Personally, I'm having trouble getting nerdy GUYS to play this game. *narrows eyes* Maybe they think this is one of those so-called "cutesy girly games" or something.

Any suggestions, you guys?


Drop by Philadelphia on the way back to LA, we can blow each other up like there's no tomorrow. (a similar invitation was extended to Scott, since he lives in PA)
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« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2003, 11:41:43 pm »

Betrayal at Krondor is very similar to Starcon 2 in that is is a giant hybrid of genres that succeeds in everything it attempts. Plus it is extremely intimidating when you first look at the map just like Starcon 2. Another great game of epic proportions is XCom 1. Neither of these games exhibit the kind of humor that Starcon exudes; so if humor is what kept you going, the Lucasarts adventure games are probably, dead on, what you want to play. Curse of Monkey Island is a good entry point if you aren't familiar with reverse logic adventure games. Full Throttle and Day of the Tentacle are both great lesser known adventures more for the veteran.
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« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2003, 06:02:05 am »

My only real problem with Krondor was the fact that it doesn't seem to like my monitors too much. My monitors succumb to gamma radiation (or whatever you call it when the years make your monitor all dark even at its highest brightness setting). I can never play the bloody game because daytime looks like night, and nighttime is so dark you cannot even see the menu. (which is what you use to light a torch with...)
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« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2003, 08:11:45 am »

A reduction in gamma (i.e. brightness) could have to do with screen degradation, or it can have to do with the power supply... I don't think gamma rays (high energy photons typically emitted in nuclear processes) would do it, actually, unless it melted the whole screen.
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« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2003, 09:44:48 am »

*cheers as her geek level goes down another notch!*
Now I just need to say some really stupid things that would 'prove' how ungeeky I am.

Things a stereotypical blonde would say about nerdy things like...

...like...

...ick, I can't think of any right now.
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« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2003, 11:31:56 am »

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I don't think gamma rays (high energy photons typically emitted in nuclear processes) would do it, actually, unless it melted the whole screen.


Yeah, and it would probably also cause you to end up melting Wink.
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« Reply #89 on: April 22, 2003, 10:37:44 pm »

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Drop by Philadelphia on the way back to LA, we can blow each other up like there's no tomorrow. (a similar invitation was extended to Scott, since he lives in PA)

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