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Purchasing Groombridge Log?
« on: March 24, 2019, 07:45:55 am »

Hi, I'd like to purchase the Groombridge Log ebook by Tiberium, but neither the Australian Amazon nor the Australian Kobo store will sell it to me. And you can't buy ebooks from the US Amazon or Kobo stores from Australia without using a VPN and making a bogus US account.

What other stores is it available at, that I might be able to purchase it for my eReader? I really want to support Tiberium, rather than just reading the free version.

Thanks for any help you can give!
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Re: Purchasing Groombridge Log?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2019, 10:46:31 am »

If you are willing but unable to purchase the book, you can read the PDF for free and make a donation via Paypal. That also works if you just want the author to shut up and take your money

Just follow the link, find the paypal button and send him your gratitude.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2019, 09:33:17 am »

I have no information on Australian local ebook systems. In addition to Amazon and Kobo, I know that both Groombridge Log and Eternal Doctrine are available in the Finnish Elisa kirja service. Perhaps there is something similar in Australia? I know that at least Walmart sells them as ebooks.

Since Kindle as a whole is not supported in Finland, I myself have simply created a US Amazon account and purchased everything from there. I don't know if that works for you, though.
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Re: Purchasing Groombridge Log?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2019, 01:24:59 pm »

Australia is a special case when it comes to stuff like this. They make you jump through hoops... Just get a VPN and make a US account or something.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2019, 04:24:54 pm »

I remember starting the book and being a bit put off by it. This thread got me to start it over again.

I remember the problems from before and still think they're problems. Generally, it seems like the author was just running with nifty ideas that popped into his head rather than thinking things through and searching for consequences and making sure that things were in the state they would have been in already when it starts.

1) The porn watching is dumb except the first time, and especially dumb when people who'd been involved in things get distracted by it as if it's new and they'd never seen any before.
2) They should have been shutting down sections for a long time, not thinking about it a few days out from the very end.
3) One would not expect there to be a science section on the starbase, which is present for refuelling and repair. Where would you get a science section in time for all those '"that's our scientists' report"? Well, the colony was about 30% scientists by population!
4) Nitpicky, but gravitational waves are REALLY hard to detect. There's no way they'd have a gravitational wave detector active if there was anything they could shut down. Especially not if they had given up on powering the optical telescope.
5) Wu is a moron if he didn't immediately get the implication that he should get his telescope. Why make a deal out of his taking a while?
6) Why is every starbase crewman we see in part 1 male?
7) Why did the Ur-Quan put a major human tactical genius on the station? They should all be on the ground. I can't tell why he didn't push for and get overall operational control immediately. I suppose he kind of did, but after the battle I don't see how he could end up not keeping it (I haven't gotten that far, so maybe something comes up).
8) The fight against the Ilwrath is weird. Stall it for ten minutes? The Vindicator would have been toast by then. Also, that Avenger had a damaged cloaking device; it wasn't simply overconfidence.

I did like the 'what if it was a trap' thought. That was a nice addition.

I don't know, maybe Peeru couldn't stand up to such scrutiny. I just feel like this needed some beta reading. Most of these would only take tiny tweaks to address (either explain and otherwise leave as is, or remove)
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2019, 01:38:56 pm »

Now that we're on the topic... (!)

Beta reading would definitely have helped. The time for that was over six years ago, though.

When I started writing Groombridge Log, it wasn't that serious yet. I had zero experience. It got serious sometime during the project. I don't remember when exactly.

Coincidentally, I read the last chapter of Eternal Doctrine yesterday, for fun. The quality was a lot better than in the first chapter of Groombridge Log - which shouldn't surprise anyone. I'm sure all writers feel the same way when reading their early works.

Also, I feel a strong urge to respond to your points (all eight of them) !

1) agreed
2) agreed
3) agreed, but the story required it
4) disagreed! I disagree on all technology-related critizism on stories set out far in the future
5) I don't remember the details. There probably was no ulterior motive. So - agreed
6) no reason. There probably are more males overall. I don't see a problem.
7) I never thought of it like that. But again: the story required it
8 In the original story it was simply a gameplay thing that the Ilwrath told about their malfunctioning cloaking device. I tried to think of how that fight could really have panned out.

In the beginning I was too focused on following the original story as closely as possible. It took some time until I found the courage to take more liberties.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2019, 05:20:47 pm »

4. Nitpicky, but gravitational waves are REALLY hard to detect. There's no way they'd have a gravitational wave detector active if there was anything they could shut down. Especially not if they had given up on powering the optical telescope.
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8. The fight against the Ilwrath is weird. Stall it for ten minutes? The Vindicator would have been toast by then. Also, that Avenger had a damaged cloaking device; it wasn't simply overconfidence.

If you want realistic gravity, then the star control style of battles must be tremendously speed up from real time.  With the speed you travel relative to planets, the influence of gravity from said planets would have no noticeable effect on your ship's trajectory.

So 10 minutes of real time might equate to 10 seconds of melee time, no?
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2019, 06:07:38 pm »

8 is a good point. Unfortunately I learned an important lesson too late:

You should never use specific measures in stories like this - unless you have the entire physics system thought out really well all the way. It was a mistake to mention that the flight took 10 minutes. For consistency, everything would then have to be calibrated against that one measure. If I were to write it again, I would leave out all exact times like that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2019, 03:37:50 am »

4. Nitpicky, but gravitational waves are REALLY hard to detect. There's no way they'd have a gravitational wave detector active if there was anything they could shut down. Especially not if they had given up on powering the optical telescope.
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8. The fight against the Ilwrath is weird. Stall it for ten minutes? The Vindicator would have been toast by then. Also, that Avenger had a damaged cloaking device; it wasn't simply overconfidence.

If you want realistic gravity, then the star control style of battles must be tremendously speed up from real time.  With the speed you travel relative to planets, the influence of gravity from said planets would have no noticeable effect on your ship's trajectory.

So 10 minutes of real time might equate to 10 seconds of melee time, no?

Not the only solution; you can keep a dogfighting feel to combat if you try. In Peeru, I chose that the drive used in-system uses space stretching so that the ships are entangled in a hypertorus. The wraparound is actually real, and the ships suffer scale-changing effects that make them seem (and only seem) to be comparable in size to planets. This is practically necessary in order to make it possible not to get into a fight with every ship in the inner solar system at the same time. Considering crossing the entire solar system takes half a day of game time and traveling just an AU takes only 16 minutes, getting super duper swarmed will be all too easy if fights are decompressed in time.
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