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Re: Advice needed...
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2003, 10:51:37 pm »

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Here are the rainbow worlds:

Beta Pegasei I (39.5;745.8)
Epsilon Draconis I (283.6;785.7)
Epsilon Lipi I (543.7;827.0)
Beta Leporis I (766.6;866.6)
Gamma Aquarii I (853.4;879.7)
Groombridge I (996.0;904.2)
Alpha Andromedae I (862.5;700.0)
Gama Reticuli I (741.6;508.3)
Gamma Kepler I (602.0;297.9)
Zeta Sextantis I (468.1;91.6)
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2003, 11:51:54 pm »

start with the stars within the illwraiths sphere of influence. alot are sutiable for a under powered lander, and the minerials are of good quality too. but if your having trouble against there ships, try waitng for a message from the starbase captain. hell fill you in. this unknown races ships work rather well in the beginning against the dillrats. ~DEFIANT
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2003, 02:36:41 am »

Obviously, a really minor suggestion, but one that still more or less applies; if you're on a world with Radioactives or exotics (or even precious metals) then be careful not to scoop up a mineral deposit when your lander is almost full up. You could lose a potential 150 RUs (500 RU for exotics) each and every time you do that. Just send the lander back and send it back down for another trip.

Also, it doesn't hurt to carry more cargo bays than you think you'll need. Yes, you can dump out commons and corrosives in favor of more expensive minerals if you max out on cargo---but those minerals will never be recovered again, and even 300 corrosives made way for 300 precious metals---is still 600 RU that you miss out on.

Fuel is a -lot- more expensive than many realize. Going to a star 30 light years away sucks up 60 fuel points on a round trip, not including lander fuel. That's 1200 RU, gone right there. This is another very good reason you want to err on the side of too much than too few cargo bays. If you dont' make at least 1200 RU on a return trip, all you've done is gone and wasted a couple months. I suggest using the Melnorme to fuel up when you can. Yes, you want to scrape all your credits together for technology--- but keep in mind that even with only the first technology the Melnorme give you--- the improved blasters--- you can still be a force to be feared by most of the creatures in the galaxy. You'll also find that having 150 crew with a pair of ion-bolt blasters can be a lot more resilent in space than having 50 crew with a pair of upgraded blasters. The Melnorme sell you fuel at a very good price, considering your bio units are worth double when you sell them to the Melnorme, and a single Rainbow World is basically worth 10,000 RU.

Oh and one more minor tip with a lander--- if you're at a planet with radioactives or exotics (or even precious metals), save the game before mining. Losing even an unupgraded lander full of cargo could cost you over a thousand RU, if you include the cost of the cargo you were carrying. (or double that, if you were carrying exotics). Obviously, most people recommend saving before mining anyways, but this gets tedious for some, and feels like cheating to others.
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2003, 04:16:14 am »

Since I know where everything is, I tend to just buy all the tech from the Melnorme using rainbow world income, ignore the info they sell, and then use lifeform data for fuel. That way I can use RU for crew, ships, & modules.
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2003, 04:26:52 am »

Well, once you know where all the rainbow worlds are (or even 4 of them) and how to get the portal spawner, the game basically becomes a piece of cake.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2003, 03:41:38 am »

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Well, once you know where all the rainbow worlds are (or even 4 of them) and how to get the portal spawner, the game basically becomes a piece of cake.

Wow, you guys really make this challenging for yourselves.  I certainly didn't rely on the rainbow worlds in any way shape or form when playing SC2.  I mean, I don't hate resource mining that much, anyways.  I couldn't tell you where all the Rainbow Planets were... maybe I know where one is....  I like to think it makes things more interesting...  maybe even a bit more challenging that way!   Grin
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2003, 05:53:15 am »

Well if it makes a difference to you Omni, I do set limits on myself. I do the whole Shiver's-list-thing where I don't visit rainbow worlds nor allow myself a reloaded saved game when my lander explodes. Nor allow myself to visit any key planets until they're directly mentioned in-game.
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2003, 02:26:10 pm »

I actually just replayed the game using the technique of finding all rainbow worlds directly... I dunno, it feels weird not mining anything, and just doing the story elements. Not as ... swashbuckling anymore if you see what I mean?
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2003, 12:26:51 am »

Yeah, check it out... you're now officially a librarian.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2003, 02:04:36 am »

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Actually, it makes no difference at all.  I couldn't care less.   Tongue  But whatever floats your boat.  If you wanna be a librarian, go to librarian school.  If you wanna blow up some green, evil aliens then get your game face on, punk!
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2003, 11:35:20 am »

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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2003, 01:12:53 pm »

Thanks to all.  The overwhelming amount of advice offered helped me beat the game for the first time in a decade (Give or take a year or two).  I used to use the lander cheat in my guilt-free youth.   :-/
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2003, 05:42:58 pm »

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Yes, you can dump out commons and corrosives in favor of more expensive minerals if you max out on cargo---but those minerals will never be recovered again, and even 300 corrosives made way for 300 precious metals---is still 600 RU that you miss out on.


Dump out commons and corrosives? Personally I never bother picking them up in the first place.  Actually, except the first time I played (I think), I've always completely ignored anything less valuable than the precious metals (7RU/kiloton).
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2003, 07:53:59 pm »

Same here, I usualy sell the weapon you start with for fuel, go hit the closest rainbow world with that fuel. Than from there on in I can pay for fuel w/cr instead of RU. Plus Rainbow Worlds have a ton of radioactives, and usualy the system itself will ahve some good minerals. So I mine those for more RU. And I just keep an eye out when in "event" systems. ALthough I am thinking about mapping the entire game just for the heck of it. Delta Tauri has 3 calm saphire worlds in it if that helps anyone.
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