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lostsoul
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i thought shiver already figured this out?
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LotBlind
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Well actually, not all of what Gemini does is the first time it's been done: I think he does it for the sport. If there's a thread where shiver posted something similar, I couldn't find it just now. If you know where it is, I'm sure it'd be useful to compare.
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LotBlind
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Right, well these works, believe it or not, can actually completent each other. I don't see anything about AI vs AI in what shiver did, and also he's only indirectly answered the question "how much should each ship be worth" since he's implemented tons of changes as well. If there's anything like the table gemini compiled, I don't see it in what you linked.
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uh oh...i meant no disrespect...the more the merrier i say.
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Death 999
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He says the AI's defects won't have a big impact… but it definitely flies some ships well and some very, very poorly (Kohr-Ah, Earthling). I haven't watched the whole video to see if he notes this. I'll get to it…
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Death 999
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Yeah. But my real complaint isn't that the AI is bad, it's that he took his results as solid anyway. For isntance, he called out the Supox as 'actually' being weak right after showing how the AI was flying it in a completely ludicrously stupid way.
I wonder if we could do a PVP version of this with enough dedicated netplay…
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Yeah, it's complicated.
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So then what about using an improved AI for mass testing?
Are there any community-developed improved "cyborg" players for UQM?
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Writing AI is said to be one of the most difficult parts of programming. There hasn't been much work done in this area by the fan community. I did a little for Project 6014 to get the Lurg Prawn to fight and made minor fixes to some of the core ships; e.g. stop Ur-Quan from launching fighters at cloaked Ilwrath. Anyone feeling motivated to write some AI is welcome to jump in and give it a try. A good place to start: Turn VUX into an actual threat for the campaign.
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