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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2003, 12:18:07 am »

Let's see here. Hayes tells you (I believe, or I read it somewhere) that Cruisers are manufactured in the original Motor City, Detroit. Did the Ur-Quan destroy Detroit? If they didn't, there's that. As for the plans, it mentioned that the Ur-Quan took or destroyed them all. Doubtful. We've got things like NORAD and other helpful mountain hideouts to store our goodies, so I'm doubtful they got all the copies. If the Ur-Quan destroyed Detroit, I'm sure there's some other city that we could've built them in, just as long as we've got the plans. If they did return us to "pre-atomic savagery", it's not like they dug up all the Uranium in the mantle either, so we'd re-discover it once more, perhaps it'd be even more efficient.

I'd guess that the social structure would be Quasi-Socialist or a Glastnost-like Communism, as we'd all be geared toward taking the shield down, and Capitalism would take a back seat as the greed of the few is replaced by the desires of all. Mmmm. Socialism. Anyway, they'd probably elect a leader that acts as more of a figurehead than anything (that's pretty much what American politics is today anyway Tongue) that would have Cabinets to accomplish things. Perhaps a Ministry of Freedom or something similar. Who knows?
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2003, 01:59:58 am »

As for the Pre-Atomic Savagery:  Perhaps the Slave Shields act like super-control rods, preventing any nuclear reaction within their confines (although I doubt it).

Cults:  Hmm, how old would Jason MacBride be at this time?  Considering the Small War was in 2115, and Homo Deus was founded not long after that, we've got 119 years, plus 30 years (estimate) to make MacBride respectible when he started, and he'd be 149 when the slaveshield went up.  Unless medical technology really became advanced before the Chenjesu came (possible, since the Androsynth worked as scientists), MacBride would be long dead.  
If he survived long enough to see the Chenjesu though,  (2112 - 2016 + 30 = 126 [he was rich, so he could afford the best care]), then he would probably reform some underground cult that despised all alien interference (fueled by reports of Arilou *modifications* before the war).  If he didn't survive, one of his children or maybe an ardent follower could do the same thing.  With the glow of the slave shield overhead, many might be angry enough to follow this new movement.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2003, 07:29:06 am »

The secret: Xemu comes out of hiding in the Earth's core and restores nuclear power to the Earthlings.
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2003, 07:07:28 am »

As Hayes said, one of his crew was a worker at the New Detroit shipyards and made a secret copy before they were mass-wiped from the databases. Noone's to say another bloke working there didn't make a secret copy too--- or that this lady didn't make a copy of her copy and hand it off to someone she trusted.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2003, 08:56:42 am »

its all in the remake Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2003, 03:07:20 pm »

I think the simplest solution is that cruisers coming up from earth simply look cool and no one bothered to care enough to try and make it consistent with the story you're told in-game.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2003, 03:07:05 am »

Why were the Androsynth scientists?  They were raised by Hsien Ho.  The SC2 manual doesn't say that they were slaves in the literal sense, but that their level of human rights were equal to slavery.  They would have been Scientists with no paid overtime time what-so-ever.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2003, 03:50:01 am »

... but that's how scientists in Academia are already paid, practically speaking.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2003, 09:31:21 am »

at the end of the game
when the ships from earth took off in to space
they were or might have been nato peace keeping ships
to keep the earthlings in line
if they got out of line they got zapped

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( hey its just a guess as to what is was)
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2003, 04:06:48 pm »

NATO would keep Earthling Cruisers as peacekeeping ships?!
Space ships equipped with Nuclear weapons?!
I don't think it's logical, especially as it seems that the Ur-quan didn't want the Humans to continue to build cruisers. (That's why people had to make secret copies of the plans).

But this seems like the easiest "problem" to solve: People made copies of the plans and after order was restored they were used to build more cruisers in preparations for leaving the shield.
I guess there were projects trying to crack the shield.

But how did people reach order from the cause that came with the shield?
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2003, 03:23:28 am »

Well, the slave shield clearly permits some kinds of signals: after all, you can see through it. So the alliance could just write "HIERARCHY" with a bunch of flares, and the people on the surface would know it was safe to begin building.
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2003, 04:13:31 am »

A few thought of my own: First of all psychology, sociology and history have demonstrated that nothing unifies a group of people more efficiently than a common enemy. The Ur-Quan seem like a big enough threat to me to unite virtually the whole human species.

The notion about famine got me thinking. While humans colonized the solar system, Earth was probably still pretty much the sole source of food. Also it would stand to reason that less than 10% of the entire human population was residing off-planet the time the Chenjesu contacted us. There would probably be enough food production to satiate the population. The breakdown of the transportation infrastructure is a possible problem, but I don't consider that very probable.

BTW, where did the people on the starbase get their food?
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2003, 04:40:18 am »

Good points. And if the starbase can just make food, why not Earth as well.?
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2003, 09:31:14 am »

d*&^% you fred
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Re: Earthlings under the shield
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2003, 07:47:20 pm »

I'm not sure you can say that Humanity have an enemy to unite against. They already lost the war, I think it was the time for desperation and blaming people. Uniting is what they did before that. Smiley

BTW Death_999, you're idea is hilarious!
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