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I come to think...
« on: December 10, 2003, 06:04:20 am »

It would be a nice idea for the next version to display the fuel number adding decimals, so it would show like 20.16
I'd find this very useful,since the landing vehicles often require not very round numbers of fuel...(0.3,0.5,0.9,0.1...and my favorite: 0.10!,how absurd!)
Sometimes I'd like to know whether using the landing vehicle will spend my 20 units of fuel or it won't. Suppose 20 units is the fuel I need to return Earth, if I spend more than that, I'm over. In that case I wouldn't know the exact number of fuel I'd have in my tanks after using the landing vehicle.
Besides...it would look cool to see how the decimals go down while traveling through hyperspace.... ;-)

However, I'm afraid I am not the first to say this...maybe it has already been discussed.In that case....my apologies.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2003, 10:12:31 am »

I have to jump on Volka's side here. In my efforts to write the planet database it's occurred to me that it's quite difficult to keep track of your fuel to such precision. Granted, this would mean that when refuelling you'd have to pay for either a whole unit or partial price of a unit for your last empty nth of a space in your tank (if it exists), but I suspect that the former is already true.

Speaking of the database, I just realized I need to add a "fuel used" calculation for the planet data display. Why didn't I think of that before? Oh well. *starts digging into scan.c*

So, yeah. This seems like a nice, simple idea to me. What're the chances of it being implemented?
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2003, 05:08:55 pm »

Ok, one good work about sc3.... Everytime you wanted to leave a system to another, it showed you if you can go there and then go back and how much fuel you need to go there. So that way you can calculate how much fuel you have for landing. But ofcourse it isn't so nessecary in sc2 if you have(well you know what I mean, just don't want to spoil...)...
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2003, 07:37:27 pm »

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(0.3,0.5,0.9,0.1...and my favorite: 0.10!,how absurd!)


When it says 0.10 it means 1.0. Adjust accordingly.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2003, 08:13:36 pm »

Yes, more decimals is more fun (I think). It would also be cool to see how long does a trip take (for example the quasispace portal is ... annoying. It's 10th day, you are in Alpha Pavonis and you are not sure how long it takes. Of course the current solution would be to know how long it takes to use 1 fuel unit.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2003, 09:10:50 pm »

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When it says 0.10 it means 1.0. Adjust accordingly.


Yep. But what is it?
A bug I guess...
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2003, 11:27:10 pm »

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Yep. But what is it?
A bug I guess...


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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2003, 12:46:52 am »

Heh ok  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2003, 12:10:57 am »

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Yes, more decimals is more fun (I think). It would also be cool to see how long does a trip take (for example the quasispace portal is ... annoying. It's 10th day, you are in Alpha Pavonis and you are not sure how long it takes. Of course the current solution would be to know how long it takes to use 1 fuel unit.


Wouldn't this also depend on the number of thrusters you have mounted on the ship? Say you have 2 ships, both have 200 fuel, but one ship has 1 thruster while the other is full. That ship with all the thrusters is going to get there a whole lot faster, but still use the same amount of fuel.


BTW, you always make it to the natural portal on the 21st. I don't know how many times that has happened to me   Angry
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2003, 06:44:56 am »

Well, if you really mean "how long" does it take, then yes, that would depend entirely on your thrusters. However if you mean "how far can you travel with one fuel unit", the answer to that is really rather simple.

FuelUsage = DistanceTravelled / 10

Note that this is using in-game units, not the system within the source. So one fuel unit gets you 10 HUs of distance, or 1/5th the width or height of one of the blue squares on the starmap.

I suppose it would be feasible to find a way to calculate the time required to travel along a disance, though of course it would require inputting how many thruster units are on your sihp to be accurate. If there's enough support for the idea I could look into adding it as a feature of the fuel calculator on my database project.

And it's not true that you always miss the portal. When I'm in the area of the natural qspace portal and am waiting for it I'll usually wander to nearby stars to do some mining, keeping a close eye on the date. If you want to know exactly how many days it takes to travel back to the portal's point, set your ship at the approximate location of the portal, set your course and note the date you started on and the date you arrived. Once you have that amount of days (addding another day for insurance) left until the 17th, set your course back to the portal area.

It might not work well for anything but single-stop trips, but I don't actually use that method myself, as I seem to have a pretty good feel for the speed of the ship in hyperspace (at least when involving short distances). I usually just set a date that I have to leave by and I always seem to arrive in time.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2003, 01:13:18 pm »

it can be nice but is it really that important?
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2003, 11:24:41 pm »

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I suppose it would be feasible to find a way to calculate the time required to travel along a disance, though of course it would require inputting how many thruster units are on your sihp to be accurate



At max thrust, the number of days travel will take is slightly more than half the fuel used.
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