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Re: Tips for all newbies
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2007, 06:03:49 pm »

Certainly, if you assume that they only eat 9 square centimetres a day. Any certain reason for that number?
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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2007, 06:32:39 pm »

Oops, I meant 9 cubic centimetres, not square centimetres.

I'm calculating an exact quantity:
A human body burns about 1,800 calories a day; 100 grammes of chocolate have around 500 calories; concentrate food is more concentrate than chocolate. Concentrate food has to contain around 800 calories per 100 grammes, which means that the 5,259,600 calories needed in 8 years can be provided by 657.450 kilogrammes. Which at a density of 100 kg/cu.m mean 6.57 cubic metres, circa 1.86 m X 1.86 m X 1.86 m. Or, if 100 kq/cu.m food is too heavy for you, 30 kg/cu.m means 21.915 cubic metres, circa 2.8 m X 2.8 m X 2.8 m.
Still reasonable.
Especially since rats&clam/Dravatz eat less than humans.
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Re: Tips for all newbies
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2007, 08:47:33 pm »

Ever heard of waste reclamation? Certainly you have, if you read this thread. I mentioned it earlier.
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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2007, 09:23:55 pm »

Food already used cannot be reused (otherwise Fwiffo's ship will turn into a perpetuum mobile). And a system capable of recycling food would be large and would gulp large quantities of energy. Not really effective.
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« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2007, 09:33:51 pm »

Oops, I meant 9 cubic centimetres, not square centimetres.

I'm calculating an exact quantity:
A human body burns about 1,800 calories a day; 100 grammes of chocolate have around 500 calories; concentrate food is more concentrate than chocolate. Concentrate food has to contain around 800 calories per 100 grammes, which means that the 5,259,600 calories needed in 8 years can be provided by 657.450 kilogrammes. Which at a density of 100 kg/cu.m mean 6.57 cubic metres, circa 1.86 m X 1.86 m X 1.86 m. Or, if 100 kq/cu.m food is too heavy for you, 30 kg/cu.m means 21.915 cubic metres, circa 2.8 m X 2.8 m X 2.8 m.
Still reasonable.
Especially since rats&clam/Dravatz eat less than humans.

Why would they eat less? Shofixti (I assume that's what you mean by rats) have an awesome metabolism, if they grow and mature quickly enough to reproduce a species at that rate. Spathi are very alien, but I imagine that hypertension of theirs burns a fair few calories, always being on the lookout for enemies is energy exhaustive.

Also, I think what death means is that the waste you pass can be recycled and used again. Even crap contains some energy, at least on the first few runs. Just because it's not as effective doesn't make it worthless (nor a physical impossibility). Besides, for all we know there are machines on those ships that can recreate food from a sample, given enough energy and raw materials.
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Re: Tips for all newbies
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2007, 11:15:30 pm »

Food already used cannot be reused (otherwise Fwiffo's ship will turn into a perpetuum mobile).

That has to be the stupidest argument I've seen from you yet.
You don't contest that he has an energy source of some sort, right? Well, I think we can agree he does. And we do agree that it would, eventually, run out. All that is necessary is that it has enough juice to power the waste reclamation system on top of the lights, the heat, his video game habit, and blowing away the odd planet lander.
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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2007, 02:05:54 pm »

Food already used cannot be reused (otherwise Fwiffo's ship will turn into a perpetuum mobile).

That has to be the stupidest argument I've seen from you yet.
You don't contest that he has an energy source of some sort, right? Well, I think we can agree he does. And we do agree that it would, eventually, run out. All that is necessary is that it has enough juice to power the waste reclamation system on top of the lights, the heat, his video game habit, and blowing away the odd planet lander.
How silly or clever are other arguments you have seen from me?
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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2007, 06:57:52 pm »

Calculating calories wasn't too daft. It gives us some sort of rough numbers, if we're willing to make enough assumptions.
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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2007, 07:59:36 pm »

No, I was referring to my arguments in general.
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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2007, 09:23:01 pm »

I haven't been keeping track, but it's not hard to catch a blip like that.
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