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FF & PR3 ship ideas
« on: April 27, 2003, 02:07:16 pm »

A while ago on PNF, there was a gif posted of ships that FF & PR3 came up with for SC2 that were never used. Can anyone provide me with the link for these.
There was also a gif for the conversation at groombrige. Can anyone find that?
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2003, 10:23:55 pm »

http://home.att.ne.jp/wave/rainbow/Toys_for_Bob/indexE.htm

Scroll down to "treasure box".
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2003, 10:34:47 pm »

http://home.att.ne.jp/wave/rainbow/Toys_for_Bob/test_newship1.htm

It's amazing to look at these ship designs and imagine what was going on in P&F's minds at the time.  It's so neat to think of all the possible ships the game might've had.  I think this treasure box of lost game pieces is something every fan should take a look at.
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Re: FF & PR3 ship ideas
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2003, 08:07:08 pm »

The one ship I have a question about is the Gold beatle things. Is that giant gold man supposed to be a giant gold man shaped spaceship, or is that a closeup of the pilot, or what?
(Personally, I think a giant gold alien mothership would have been way cool.)
Does anyone know what FF & PR3 were actually planning for any of these? (Or if FF or PR3 wanted to reply to this question, I'd love to hear from them.)
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2003, 09:48:03 pm »

Maybe that was the original Sa-Matra design.. the Giant Humanoid Statue of DEATH.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2003, 10:44:45 pm »

The big ships in the upper left and lower right were designs for the Hierarchy and Alliance starbases respectively in Star Control 1.  We actually had them playable in the strategy game whenever you attacked an opponent's starbase.  The Alliance base had a swiveling turret which could either fire or reinforce sections of its shield.  They were immobile like the Samatra and turned out to be not terribly fun to play so we excised them.

The littler ships were just random designs (many by Greg Johnson of Starflight fame).  I don't think we ever gave any of these much thought as to what their capabilities would be.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2003, 03:35:21 am »

OMFG, Fred Ford actually responded to my post. I think I'm going to die now.
Just one, focused question, Fred, if you'd care to come back and make me insanely happy. What's the giant gold guy in http://home.att.ne.jp/wave/rainbow/Toys_for_Bob/test_newship4.htm for? Was that to be a ship, the giant gold guy? Was that another starbase that would defend itself if attacked? Was the ships simply an early design for the Zot Fot Pik (I see a gold ZFP there) that was simple abandoned?
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2003, 04:27:55 am »

The giant gold guy looks like it's a close-up on an Orz marine.

Hmmm, or maybe the Orz marines were originally supposed to be stupendously large, and they would do damage to enemy ships by grabbing them and squeezing?  This could be the prototype. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2003, 10:23:52 pm »

The gold guy (as were all the ships on that page) was drawn by Leonard Robel whom we assisted in getting started in the game business.  Sorry to disappoint but the gold guy was just an elaborate doodle while the other ships are indeed Zoq-Fot-Pik ancestors.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2003, 09:59:55 am »

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The gold guy (as were all the ships on that page) was drawn by Leonard Robel whom we assisted in getting started in the game business.  Sorry to disappoint but the gold guy was just an elaborate doodle while the other ships are indeed Zoq-Fot-Pik ancestors.


Aw, man. I thought that'd be a way cool configuration for a starbase, like you were saying in a previous area that you could go up against, ya know, except it'd spawn enemy ships every so often.

I also had this idea of incorporating it into an animation I've storyboarded out to give to the starcontrol community, and have that big gold ship show up at the end to make it feel like a promo for a starcontrol sequel, and I'd get you all creaming in your shorts, then, when you all go "Wow! Are you working on a sequel/fan project, I'd say "No, I need a programmer," or "No, only if TFB hired me," or something, and when they did I'd eventually climb my way to the top of TFB, name myself High Master Ultimate Bob, use my new leverage to take over the world.

Sigh.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 08:14:09 am »

[THREAD NECROMANCY]

In the midst of posting mindless player-against-cyborg melee threads (exhibit A, exhibit B) something so much better slipped under my radar. Does anyone have a link to the unused ship images these guys were talking about?
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 03:09:32 pm »

The site talked about can be found on the Internet Archive. Try this page.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2009, 07:49:06 pm »

I suppose I should link the images for everyone to see.


















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Re: FF & PR3 ship ideas
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2009, 03:17:37 pm »

I wonder - on the last pic in the bottom right pic - the ZPF predecessor destroyed the ship by flying through it or just shot it to pieces ?
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 12:10:17 am »

My guess is it shot it. The lines are coming from its eyes.
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