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Official remix addon 3: The Ur-Quan Hierarchy
« on: July 01, 2004, 05:21:07 am »

Yes yes, I know. You're all in a state of disbelief that us remixers are still alive after the lifetimes since the last remix pack. Fear not, for we are still strong! It's time to add another set of remixes to the game, and this time we're giving you the Ur-Quan hierarchy of battle thralls, plus some nice extras.

As usual, you're probably going to have a hard time adjusting to some of these new versions, since many of them differ quite a lot from the originals. However, I'm confident that you'll come to love them more than than the originals when you've listened to them a few times. Some themes got different approaches, like for example the Ur-Quan and the Mycon, while others are more loyal to the source material.

Once again you have the choice between downloading a zip-file ready for installing into the game, or going to our website at www.spacesynth.net/precursors and downloading the mp3s. We appreciate all comments and reviews you can toss our way, especially the nice ones. Wink I'd like to remind you that our website allows you to post comments and reviews directly to the song download page, securing you the spotlight whenever someone wants to download that particular remix.

For the third (but not the last) time, we hope you enjoy the music.

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PS: The download of the full zip package might not be working for a few hours yet, depending on how fast the mirrors are updated. You can still get the mp3s at the Precursors site.
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Re: Official remix addon 3: The Ur-Quan Hierarchy
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2004, 05:25:09 am »

Be sure to check the bonus pack when possible (Precursors songs already available as mp3). There are some good tracks in it too.. especially the two new battle songs.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2004, 05:50:34 am »

Awsome, downloading both as we speak. I am also smiling as we speak.  Smiley
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Re: Official remix addon 3: The Ur-Quan Hierarchy
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2004, 06:49:33 am »

Listening to the bonus pack now. Tis awsome. Truely godly. Lower case g but still godly. Can't wait till the official ones download cus I assume they are even better:D:D

I'll be sure to post some awsome feedback/compliments as soon as admire your work for a day or two. You guys rock!


EDIT: Um yes, I'm done listening to them all. Wow, not one track disappointed me. Awsome.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2004, 08:07:47 am »

I love this Mortal Kombat Remix I got right now. The melee in this game always did remind me of that a little bit...

The Kohr-Ah battle track is too slow to be a battle track. No harm done, it's just an extra.

More to come.

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Oh no.

What have they done with the Ur-Quan theme? You guys have done some really nice work with the atmosphere and everything but what in The Nine Hells is this thing you're doing the beats with? I really like roughly half of what you guys release, but the tracks I'm really looking forward to always end up being on the bad side of someone's experiment. Well, the Yehat's still up for grabs, I guess.

On a brighter note, the VUX and Umgah are very nice.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2004, 10:33:57 am »

Of the four I've heard:

Thraddash - GREAT!!!!  It's pretty much everything I could hope for and more.  First class work.

Mycon - The original mycon theme wasn't a favorite of mine until I listened to it outside the game.  Convo's with the mycon don't tend to be extended, and it takes a while to really shine.  But when it gets to it, it's awesome.  Same with the remix, another sure to be fave.

Kohr-Ah Battle - Cool, atmospheric, fun to listen to.  Wouldn't use it as an actual in game combat theme - would work perfectly as backgroup to an animated cutscene, if UQM had em though.

Ur-Quan - Er.  Um.  I like just about everything, it screams fear.  I especially like where it breaks into the organ and vocals in the middle.  But I've got to go with Shiver, whatever it is keeping the beat sounds like a skipping CD, and drives me up the wall.


will expand as more downloads finish, 56k is hell.

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2004, 01:46:48 pm »

Buuurn baby.... I have 750k. Downloaded in 5 minutes!!! Tongue

Lets see....
Winamp on.
Starterupsteve.com flashes are closes...
Pr0n is closed.

.....

I said pr0n is closes FFS. That's it.
I think I am ready to listen to these fine remixs.
Lets begin!

Wind of change 2003  remix: Wrong remixs, Sorry.

Arrrrrgh!!! Since when do I have "winamp lite"? It can't play the ogg files. I guess I will have to download again in mp3 format.

Buuuurn baby buurn....

Ur quan - Now and Forever

Sounds awesome but it just doesn't go well with the Ur-quan. That is too bad, it just isn't right. Still, great music.

Ilwrath - All Evil
Already know that song Smiley At least it is like the earlier remix that I have ( don't remember who did it). Some parts were good some parts were bad and just made my ears hurt. I prefer the older one. No pain.

VUX - Ultra-gross

Excullent remix!!! Just great!

Umgah - Genetic Modification

Funny one. Grin

Mycon - Rebirth

Already in the beginning I knew this remix don't fit to the Mycon. Once again, just like in the Ur-quan case. Good music, but doesn't fit.

Thraddash - Culture 19

Didn't fail me here either Grin
First remix that I just like all parts! Yey.

Kohr-Ah - Cleansing Required

Best remix yet in this entire pack, two times I almost got chill in my back.

Orbit IV - Cold Tectonics

Fair one.

Orbit V - Extraterrestrial Lifeforms
Fair one.

Overall: Well, it was a good remix pack but isn't as good as the other two. I just liked very much the other two. There were remixs there that was too good to be true. It is very hard to do better than this. I hope it will happens in the last remix Smiley

Now to a whole diffrent music!!! Sing with me!
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Re: Official remix addon 3: The Ur-Quan Hierarchy
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2004, 03:23:26 pm »

To those of you commenting that the Ur-Quan theme doesn't fit in the game:

I'm 95% sure you actually didn't try it in the game. Of all the remixes in the entire project, the Ur-Quan is the one that feels the most different between Winamp and the game itself. Try installing the pack and starting a new game, listening to the conversation with the Ur-Quan probe. You'll see the music in a whole new perspective.

About the drums: With the exception of the timpani, the drums are all mouth voices. We wanted to make them different and alien, and it sounds like it worked. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2004, 03:44:34 pm »

I admit the tracks are good, the Ur-Quan theme is not particularly bad, simply overhyped. It does however lack two things which the make the tune a hit the original, was dramatic and made to intimidate. Like the Rooftop theme from TM1 http://www.tmalliance.com/mp3/tm1_rooftop.mp3. I'm really not complaining it just seems that this version has lost it's kick. I realize that the challenge is to recrate a tune's mood yet make it different in it's own respect, some things will be lost in translation, it is unavoidable. So don't go telling these people, who aren't getting paid, their song sucks, simply voice want you think is missing or used in excess.

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EDIT: Some tracks can only get better while others cannot be topped look at what you are comparing it to before you rate it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2004, 06:11:30 pm »

Heh heh, I tried some of them in the game. Melee and ur-quan. But thats only after I liked them.

I love both versions of the ur-quan. The full one is sweet. The all organ one is sweet. They both sound great and fit the urquan perfectly.

What can I say, I guess I'm easy to please.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2004, 03:57:30 am »

I'll make it short Wink


Add-on pack 3:
Thraddash (Espen/TA) - woah! guys, you've topped Ringwraith's remix, imo! well done! *bows in honor*.
Kohr-Ah (Riku) - I can't quite make that flanger effect grow on me, but otherwise it fits and it sounds great!
Ilwrath (Riku) - I've heard this one before.. searched the forum - couldn't find a link to it. your experiment with the electric-distortion failed. please bring the older version back! !! don't ruin a perfect thing.
Mycon (Riku) - very nice. lacking a bit the atmoshpere of the Mycon's slow, magma-hot, dark and pulsing personality, but haven't tested it in-game yet.
Umgah (Jouni) - I'm so glad you didn't leave it with that insane remix from the earlier bonus pack. I always hated the Umgah. I guess I still hate them!
VUX (Espen/TA) - lovin' it! nice drum effects and the metal distortion works great! OOH! and it loops! Cheesy
Kzer-Za (Espen/TA) - I had to change my equalizer presets a few times before I hit the one that fits this song. excellent - doesn't lack the atmosphere, and honours the Kzer-Za.

one thing - I'm not sure if this would work, but could you please try this - change the 'kshht' drum sample to a strong, bass-full heart-beat sample; it can quicken as we get into the "scary atmosphere" of the song Wink -  and the main instrument that plays the first few seconds of the song - I think it's supposed to be a violin.. but it doesnt sound like one! try a good violin sample, or an orchestra of violins! yessss!! hehe.
I imagine this would only take a few minutes to setup, at least just a sample-switch, and I'm hoping you'll let us know if my guesses can indeed add to this amazing piece!


Bonus pack 3:
Ur-Quan (Erol Otus) - lol, now I see where you got the organ idea Wink
Kohr-Ah (Jouni)- I don't like ambient music, and so I'd refrain from commenting here.
Mortal Melee (Jouni) - see, this is so much better than ambient music Roll Eyes
Vux (Aaron Grier) - Cool!
Kohr-Ah Battle (Espen) - didn't try it in game, but I think it'd fit!

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2004, 04:27:32 am »

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Ur-Quan (Erol Otus) - lol, now I see where you got the organ idea Wink


Actually, you don't. Smiley It was Tore who came up with the idea of using an organ, and I came up with the idea for the soprano. We didn't hear Erol Otus' version until our version was mastered and ready.

Regarding your idea for the heartbeat, I can't see it working. In any case, I tried an alternative to the high-pitched "snare" today, but it just didn't work. It gives the remix balance, and it just feels like something is missing if you exchange it with something else.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2004, 07:40:31 am »

Any chance we could perhaps see an alternative of that with the high pitched 'snare' replaced by a sample of an actual snare?  It's not the presence of the drum that gets me, just that the actual sample is a little grating.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2004, 01:30:34 pm »

Well I got a positive story on the Kzer-Za remix. Not about how it would fit in game though but about the music itself Smiley
I was playing it in my room and my girlfriend came in and she was like "whoa, whats that?"
"Uhm, well, its the ur-quan music remix for the starcontrol2 remake"
"Oh cool, I want it! Gimme! its in your shared directory right?"
"Uhm, sure!"
And she went to her room, and leeched it from my HD Cheesy
(Yes we live together in the same house, but we both have our own room, becouse its nice to have your own room)
I dont think I can get her to play UQM though... She actually is a pretty hardcore gamer chick, lots FPS and some RPG and stuff, but she only started when she was 18 wich was back in '99 so she is a little spoiled graphic wise I guess Wink her first game was half-life.
Anywayz, not to topic drift, this is a testimony to the songs inherent coolness!

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2004, 04:28:49 pm »

That's really cool, Chainiac! Smiley

Yes, there's a chance we might release an alternate mix of the Ur-Quan with something else replacing the "snare". However, this won't happen until we find something to replace it with that we think sounds good. Don't expect it for a little while, since I'd rather focus my efforts on pack 4 for now.

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