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« on: April 11, 2006, 03:45:34 am »

Ok guys, let's face it.

I think every one of us here who are totaly insane for Star Control hasn't gone without daydreaming of a visit by the Arilou, or a long chat with the Slylandro, in real life.

I'm not talking about the "probing" bit, mind you, that's far to complex and, well rude for me to understand why they would do that in the first place.

But, a lot of the races are so incredibly in-depth (Yehat and son, Melnorme, Z.F.P and Mycon, etc) that it does send hopes in my direction;

That some might actualy exist.

I would love to see contact with the Yehat and son (Shofixti), you could imagine the dialog.

Yehat:
Aye, it be a new race!

Human:
Yehat?

Yehat:
Yes but, how did you know?

Human:
Star Control 2.

Shofixti:
Star Control 2?

From then on, trade between the three races flourish, and sales pitches for Star Control 2 shoot through the roof, possibly smashing into some poor bird on it's way into the stratosphere...

Anyhow, discussions discussions, what race would you like to meet in real life, and do you think it might be possible that some of these might actualy coincidentaly exist? (I mean, the big-bang was *supposedly* the first thing in this universe, and scientists believe it made a humming noise, which links up to the Bhuddist belief of how the universe was created, they use near exactly the same sound for their most basic form of prayer/meditation. "unless I'm mistaken, of course.")
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 12:45:39 pm »

I want a little of whatever you're having. I'll spinkle a little
on my cereal.

What race would I want to meet in real life? Many of
the races in UQM are not very nice. So, hmm. I'll
go with the obvious choice: Syreen. The ZFP would
be fun guys to talk to as well.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2006, 05:09:46 pm »

I want a little of whatever you're having. I'll spinkle a little
on my cereal.

What race would I want to meet in real life? Many of
the races in UQM are not very nice. So, hmm. I'll
go with the obvious choice: Syreen. The ZFP would
be fun guys to talk to as well.


Well, I'm torn between the Spathi, Arilou, Z.F.P, Yehat, Pkunk, Syreen, Slylandro, Utwig and Supox...

Of course, that is to say if they exist.

Mmm, this makes me wonder, how many other races were slave-shielded?
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2006, 06:30:49 pm »

I want a little of whatever you're having. I'll spinkle a little
on my cereal.

What race would I want to meet in real life? Many of
the races in UQM are not very nice. So, hmm. I'll
go with the obvious choice: Syreen. The ZFP would
be fun guys to talk to as well.


Well, I'm torn between the Spathi, Arilou, Z.F.P, Yehat, Pkunk, Syreen, Slylandro, Utwig and Supox...

Of course, that is to say if they exist.

Mmm, this makes me wonder, how many other races were slave-shielded?
Races I would like the meet. Well from first to last: Androsynth(duh), Yehat, Arilou, Syreen, and Spathi.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2006, 06:32:41 pm »

You seem a bit scared about the Orz, aren't you?  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2006, 06:56:56 pm »

You seem a bit scared about the Orz, aren't you?  Grin

Who was that to?

If me the Orz creep me out, especially because of my Androsynth affiliation. I guess that I would still like to meet with the Orz, just to see if I can make sense of there language.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2006, 08:48:25 pm »

The statement above was directed to anyone, because nobody mentioned the Orz, which would be Number One in my list... It's just so much *squishy* to chat with them, sad there is not even more dialoque...  Wink


I guess that I would still like to meet with the Orz, just to see if I can make sense of there language.

Would be no problem, if you played the game, would it?  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2006, 09:11:08 pm »

I can't imagine any meetings with the Androsynth would go well. After all, you are one of the opressors!

Also, according to the backstory in the SC1 manual, relations with the Syreen were pretty strained until the events of SC2. Despite the fact that they were "living, breathing pinups," nobody really trusted them because of their ability to control minds and their tendency to use it to acquire "willing" slave labor, even among their allies. It's why the majority of the old Alliance forced them to the fringes of their space. Of course, I can't imagine that relations wouldn't improve after the slave shield was removed from Gaia, at least towards Earth anyway.

Realistically, though, there are only a few species it would be wise to make first contact with: Chenjesu, Pkunk, ZoqFotPik, Supox, and Melnorme. The rest are too devious, unpredictable, or downright dangerous to realistaclly want to deal with in most cases.

Though, if I was skilled at piloting (and actually flying) a powerful war vessel, I *might* want to pay a visit to the Thraddash, if only to have the opportunity to direct the formation of their next Culture. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2006, 09:26:02 pm »

I can't imagine any meetings with the Androsynth would go well. After all, you are one of the opressors!

Also, according to the backstory in the SC1 manual, relations with the Syreen were pretty strained until the events of SC2. Despite the fact that they were "living, breathing pinups," nobody really trusted them because of their ability to control minds and their tendency to use it to acquire "willing" slave labor, even among their allies. It's why the majority of the old Alliance forced them to the fringes of their space. Of course, I can't imagine that relations wouldn't improve after the slave shield was removed from Gaia, at least towards Earth anyway.

Realistically, though, there are only a few species it would be wise to make first contact with: Chenjesu, Pkunk, ZoqFotPik, Supox, and Melnorme. The rest are too devious, unpredictable, or downright dangerous to realistaclly want to deal with in most cases.

Though, if I was skilled at piloting (and actually flying) a powerful war vessel, I *might* want to pay a visit to the Thraddash, if only to have the opportunity to direct the formation of their next Culture. Wink

You forgot the Yehat, I think they were our "first contact" with alien life forms, and considering the fact that, as Trader Greenish said;

"This galaxy has been destroyed and remade several times."

Then there might be no Ur-Quan, so the Veep-Eep Queen would not be evil.

Ok, I'm set, order from most wanted to least is...

Zoq-Fot-Pik - Love their "mansions." Want to watch Frungy, have a long chat with them, general chit-chat.

Slylandro & Pkunk & Yehat - All of them are awesome, 'nuff said.

Melnorme - Mainly because their honest, blunt, and true to their word.

I like Draxas' idea of the Thraddash, but I'd rather see the Melnorme than them.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2006, 09:57:21 pm »

The Yehat were our "first contact" with alien lifeforms? (except Arilou, of course, 'cause it's not really "contact")

I thought this were the Chenjesu!
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2006, 10:06:51 pm »

The Yehat were our "first contact" with alien lifeforms? (except Arilou, of course, 'cause it's not really "contact")

I thought this were the Chenjesu!

Meh, never knew that, but they were one of the first I guess...
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2006, 11:58:38 pm »

I can't believe I forgot the Slylandro in that list up there. Tongue

Anyway, yes, first contact (barring the Arilou) was with the Chenjesu. They initiated, and immediately asked Earth to join the Alliance. I suspect that this is the only reason Humans got along well with most of the other Alliance members. Would we have understood the Mmrn at all, for example? Would the Shofixti or Yehat have thought us weak and easy prey if circumstances were different, and we encountered them on a "peaceful" exploration mission? The story of first contact with the VUX shows just how easily something seemingly insignificant can make everything go straight down the crapper (even if the Insult is just a pretense).
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2006, 03:41:10 pm »

 Why wonder. Back in BCE (Befor Computer Era) we played these fantastic games on paper with pecils and books.
 Ok...you all know what I am talking about...RPG. There are several Sci-Fi RPG out there that we can use to create the living SC universe we all crave. We have the source material on our computer... it just needs to be translated to a paper RPG system. MAybe I will invent my own...but it may detract from my current game.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2006, 05:46:43 pm »

Why wonder. Back in BCE (Befor Computer Era) we played these fantastic games on paper with pecils and books.
 Ok...you all know what I am talking about...RPG. There are several Sci-Fi RPG out there that we can use to create the living SC universe we all crave. We have the source material on our computer... it just needs to be translated to a paper RPG system. MAybe I will invent my own...but it may detract from my current game.

That's a kind of backwards movement, since Paper RPGs (never really liked anyhow) aren't that good compared to some Video Games.

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2006, 05:53:11 pm »

Why wonder. Back in BCE (Befor Computer Era) we played these fantastic games on paper with pecils and books.
 Ok...you all know what I am talking about...RPG. There are several Sci-Fi RPG out there that we can use to create the living SC universe we all crave. We have the source material on our computer... it just needs to be translated to a paper RPG system. MAybe I will invent my own...but it may detract from my current game.
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