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« on: July 24, 2009, 04:27:12 am »

Does anyone else find it odd that the ZotZotPik ships have ten crew members? I always thought it should be a multiple of three, given the nature of the groups. It also makes me wonder which one is left when there's only one crew member on the ship.
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 05:44:13 am »

I never noticed, but I guess it would make more sense if it had 12 instead of 10.

Is it possible to have odd numbers for max energy/crew? All the ships have even numbers.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 07:05:39 am »

It's probably possible. But I have no idea really.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 07:53:32 am »

Maybe 1 crew counts as 1 ZoqFotPik
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 03:32:24 pm »

You mean, 1 crew is actually 3 individuals, a Zoq, a Fot, and a Pik? It's a good idea, but what if there are humans and Shofixti aboard the Stinger? Is 1 crew still 3 individuals? That wouldn't be consistent with the other ships.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 05:42:57 pm »

The ZFP are a union of 3 races, that make sure each race is represented equally on certain positions holding power, ie. in their goverment. Captaining a starship is also such a position holding power, so they have to be represented by all three.
However, working aboard such a starship as a red shirt isn't being in a position of power, so it's just a matter of selecting the best zoq's fot's and pik's for the job Wink.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 06:41:00 pm »

If there are humans or shofixti on a stinger they each take one slot. Zoq, Fot and Pik seem like relatively small creatures and work closely together. I don't see an inconstistancy... a unit of ZFP "crew" is always 3 individuals and for the other races it's one, no matter what ship they are on. So a Stinger crewed by 10 ZFP crew units in fact has 30 individual sentients aboard... if all but the captain are aliens then there are 9 aliens and 1 Zoq, Fot and Pik. This is consistant with the captain portrait (though the Earthling, Spathi and Androsynth already violate logic in that regard).
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2009, 12:29:06 am »

I think I have raised simular "concern" for Androsynth ship with 4 crew present on the pic and the Earthling , with two .
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2009, 12:39:21 am »

Why is damage marked with crew loss anyways? Normally it's hull and/or shield.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2009, 12:57:59 am »

If it was mellee only , it could be just that - hull strength , but this was , I believe , to make the 2000 personnel of the starbase to be of real importance .
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2009, 03:25:47 am »

If we buy into the idea that the three beings combine to be shown as one crew unit, then the ZFP are sort of the Holy Trinity of the galaxy.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2009, 03:41:55 am »

If it was mellee only , it could be just that - hull strength , but this was , I believe , to make the 2000 personnel of the starbase to be of real importance .

Nah the same principle applied in SC1
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Re: Stinger
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2009, 04:06:25 am »

what about the slylandro's?  they don't have "crew"...
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2009, 04:28:57 am »

what about the slylandro's?  they don't have "crew"...

According to the interface, they do have crew. Which must mean there are little drones piloting the Probe.
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2009, 08:02:02 am »

Why is damage marked with crew loss anyways? Normally it's hull and/or shield.
I'm guessing to make the game less complicated. The ship designs are so different that it would be hard to make up a reason why one ship has higher shielding than another and what makes that shielding and why the Vindicator can't increase its shields. It would seem that a ship like the Fury would have virtually no shields and something like the Stinger would actually have high shields, but that would detract and add to the ship powers, etc.
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