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Where are the remixes?
« on: May 12, 2003, 07:00:19 am »

They said they'd be releasing remixes of SC2's music periodically but it's been more than a week since the last remix. Two weeks per remix would take an eternity to finish them all, which makes me wonder how much they've really got done so far.
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2003, 07:41:36 am »

The idea of the periodic music previews is to give you something interesting while you wait for the UQM release that includes them all. The remixing team is moving very fast, and they've already got quite a number of tracks ready.
But it will take a while before the code is ready for another release, so they're taking it slow with the previews. That's also the reason why the message says "periodically" and not some number of days.
Also note the use of the term 'preview'. They're not necessarilly final tracks, and not all tracks may be released before the UQM release.

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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2003, 10:38:14 am »

Just who the fsck do you think you are Shiver.
These people are doing the work for free, as a hobby, because they want to.
They dont have to conform to any release schedule just to please you.
If you want more remixes, go make some.
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2003, 12:07:27 pm »

Feel the love.  Tongue

I think passing judgement on the remixes at this point is premature -- to me, they sound unfinished, most likely because (gasp!) they are.  And even if you don't end up liking the final versions of the remixes, noone is forcing you to use them.  They are but one of a multitude of options available to you.

If you've got constructive criticisms of the tunes, (and for the record, you do, re: vocal samples as bed music for a game with spoken dialog) by all means voice them, as many of the people on the remix team read the forums, and I'm sure appreciate the input; but for the love of all that is good, please try to be tactful about it.  The fastest way to get on a musician's list of "people to kill" is to tell them that they suck.  Wink
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2003, 08:33:43 pm »

*grins* heheh, dont i know that ^_^

i voiced my concern now since they ARE unfinished.. since when they are finished it would be alot harder to change them... i think... in anycase, i dont plan to use the remixes myself but that dosnt and shouldnt stop a person from giving some input...

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2003, 10:05:45 pm »

My comments on the remixes:
1.Shofixty: should sound somewhat like Juno Reactor's Samurai and not as part of the 8 mile soundtrack.
2. Ilwrath: More ambience is in place, there's a part of the tune where it becomes ambient and stuff and you can actually imagine the evil spiders at work
3. Orbit: too much like the original, but good.
4. Take Saibuster's hyperspace mix for this project.
Praise Riku and Mark Vera

Eagerly waiting for another 'mix.






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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2003, 10:58:21 pm »

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Am i the only one that thinks that the ilwrath and shofixti musics just.. well.. suck to be honest. the planet remix was a bit better but the ilwrath one sounded like a bad underground mixing compo.... it sounds good till the drumbeat kicks in.. then again i never liked the illy theme on the original either but at one point when the sound goes back and forth between the sides is QUITE annoying(in the remix)...


The ilwrath remix has changed a bit. Sounds better now, and I noted the sound going back and forth to Riku as well, and he said he fixed it a bit, however the whole idea (said by Riku) to make the music annoying and feeling of oppression. Like ilwrath Smiley

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And.. mm ... the shofixti theme... PLEASE BY GOD change the maker of the music... never ever put voices in music for a game that got speech...


About the speech, you're right. I don't know how the shofixti will change/has changed. But probably will(?).

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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2003, 11:06:10 pm »

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My comments on the remixes:
3. Orbit: too much like the original, but good.


eh. too much like the original  Cheesy

Well, must say that even if it's quite simple song, it's quite hard to remix that one that way you actually can tell it's remix of it.. Don't worry, there will be more oribital music, even original for UQM. Smiley Don't know if I do second a different remix of the oribital music.. maybe, maybe not.

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4. Take Saibuster's hyperspace mix for this project.


There's quite good Riku's (naturally his) hyperspace remix waiting (don't know the recent changes to it). I listened it couple of times, and I think it fits quite well to hyperspace.. though some might disagree Smiley

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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2003, 11:08:52 pm »

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*grins* heheh, dont i know that ^_^

i voiced my concern now since they ARE unfinished.. since when they are finished it would be alot harder to change them... i think... in anycase, i dont plan to use the remixes myself but that dosnt and shouldnt stop a person from giving some input...

*gives everyone a lollipop*


I bet you will use atleast some of the remixes.. there are some quite good ones..
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2003, 11:12:08 pm »

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Also note the use of the term 'preview'. They're not necessarilly final tracks, and not all tracks may be released before the UQM release.


Correcting you here. The news says that the tracks which will be released are final and mastered versions - same files will be used in the game. This is what impression I got from Riku, and that's why the Orbit remix is actually third master of the track, and a bit changed mix of that one you probably heard earlier.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2003, 11:25:57 pm »

I rather like the Ilwrath remix. I was indifferent to it at first ,but since then it's grown on me. My only real complaint is that it seems about 15 seconds too short. It just seems to need something else in there.

I liked the orbit remix, too. I think that one is just about perfect.

The Shofixti remix, though... ugh. The voices within would get annoying as had been stated and it just feels off. I likely won't be using that one, which is a pity since the original Shofixti  music is one of my favorites.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2003, 06:46:45 am »

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Just who the fsck do you think you are Shiver. Blah blah blah...

Why, I'm fscking Shiver. And try using a fscking question mark, a fscking comma, and spell "fscking" right next time you ask a fscking question because typing like that doesn't make any fscking sense.

Ahem... you're missing the point. I asked this because the update with the Orbit Remix said that they had most of the remixes already done so I thought it was ridiculous that they would wait so long before releasing more. A moderator was nice enough to inform me that they had to fix around with the files somehow before releasing them which was the response I was searching for. So think before you go ballistic.
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2003, 08:29:44 am »

Welp, since the new probe remix is out, this thread is getting a bump.

I actually like this one a whole lot.  It strays distantly from the original..but then, the original wasn't exactly one of the standout pieces.  I don't see how you could've not strayed from the original, and managed to remix it at all.

It does do the most important things, imo.  It sticks to the spirit of the sylandro probes, doesn't completely eradicate the original theme of the tune....and it's melodic enough to not make me want to do anything possible to get out of the conversation.  I swear, at times I blew up slyandro probes just to make that orignal song stop.



Gotta wonder though, if it will ever be fully appreciated in-game.  While only 3 or so minutes long, most of the 'conversations' with the probes last about 10 seconds.  Doesn't make for full appreciation of the tune.  I reckon it will be a lot like Riku's orignal mycon music - that piece was extremely well done, but it was long, and most of the conversations with the mycon were very short.  Wasn't until long after I finished SC2 that I found out just how much there was to that selection.
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2003, 01:58:36 pm »

Even though the new "remix" of the Slylandro Probe "music" doesn't really have any connection to the original other than the phrase "We come in peace." (correct response: "Then you go in pieces!") both forwards and backwards, it's a well made, funky drum and bass sort of thing. The question is really "Does it fit the probes?", and I'd say the answer is a yes. We are talking broken but very high tech atmosphere here. The sort of low-key unemotional determination a Melnorme 2418-B would have, right there in the relentless beat.

It's a bit too early to tell, but I think the "final" remixes seem to be a lot more thought out and polished than the previews released earlier. Keep up the good work, guys. Now, if only I could convince those pesky probes to talk to me a bit longer without executing a "priority override". I hate debugging programs that fail unsafely. Cripes, you'd think that an advanced civilisation like the Melnorme would have heard about failsafes.
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Re: Where are the remixes?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2003, 02:28:58 pm »

My thoughts on the remixs:

Orbit: Very cool.  Everyone likes the real music from the game, I don't see whats wrong with having a few remastered versions of some songs.
Probe: I like it, quite good.  My only problem is not enough of the 'we come in peace' lines, I think the pc version was a bit overkill, but somewhere in the middle would be good, espically to pad some of the less-busy parts.
Ilwrath:  Good, just a bit lacking in stuff.  Seems to get a bit too mellow at some parts (although this is moot since there is supposed to be a better new version.
Shofixti: For the most part it is pretty good, just too much scratching and the voices really kinda ruin it.

All in all I like most the remixes that people have been doing (not just the offiical ones) and I on behalf of my ears, I thank you all.

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