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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2003, 11:16:17 pm »

Very funny Nic. You always have to be right huh?
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« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2003, 11:43:00 pm »

Not at all; I'm wrong all the time.  Just ask my wife.  Grin
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« Reply #107 on: August 31, 2003, 02:20:35 am »

The wife is always right... Grin
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #108 on: August 31, 2003, 05:14:16 pm »

Anyway...

How competent the pilot is very important. I actually managed to beat a human-controlled Jugger with nothing more than a Intruder. I just happened to be a better pilot, probably as I had more experience with the VUX than he did with Utwig.

Even harder was when I actually managed to beat an Avatar (weak cyborg) with a Zoq-Fot-Pik Stinger without losing any crew. Any use of the tractor beam would doom the ZFP, however, so a smarter A.I. or a human player would be nearly impossible. (Weak Cyborg doesn't use the Avatar's special at all.)
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« Reply #109 on: August 31, 2003, 05:30:03 pm »

If you want a real hard challenge try to play arilou/sylandro vs chmmr avatar(on awesome ofcourse).
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #110 on: August 31, 2003, 06:06:00 pm »

Maybe I should try that later (Arilou/Slylandro vs. Chmmr). I can't now as the computer I'm at is too ancient for OS X and so cannot run UQM. Thanks anyway.

(The computer I'm using... is a Performa with a G3 upgrade.)
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2003, 03:57:52 am »

Arilou vs chrmmr isn't that hard at all.  Just go in at an angle firing your laser, when you get close warp.   Repeat.

Try out Pkunk vs chrmmr, I got it down to the point where I can kill an awesome chmmr with 1 pkunk (if I get one regen).

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« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2003, 04:21:56 am »

Pkunk is much easier.... When you shoot on the avatar the satelites don't hit you because there are too many shots... Use the "flipping" trick and you can take him without lossing any crew.
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« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2003, 07:27:41 am »

plus u get to yell insults Grin
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« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2003, 06:09:46 am »

Some insults... Grin

(wimp, jerk, moron..etc...) These insults are 5 years old child insults. Here is an idea! How about making new insults! Like:
Mother fucker!  Grin Grin Grin

Just a crazy thought.
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2003, 06:46:19 am »

i dunno... the five year old insults seem to fit the Pkunk personality a bit better.
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2003, 09:30:47 am »

Yea I know. They love the pot worm. They are the pot worm(or something like that).
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2003, 10:20:53 am »

What is this "flipping" method you speak of, Deep Jiffa?
The zig-zag pattern employed by the best Arilou players (or the Awesome AI) or something else? (and no loss of crew, that sounds too good to be true)

I still can't quite get that angled-shot with an Arilou. I prefer the underhanded tactics of forcing slower turning opoonents to charge blindly into planets. Cool

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« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2003, 10:59:39 am »

I'll explain. The "flipping" trick is a trick which uses AI weakness to make them to turn around(facing thier back to you). This trick is simple to be done. Go into "chasing" mode when you are the one who run(with the pkunk it should be 2-3 screens) then turn around and attack. The (stupid) avatar will turn around and you can attack him and run without getting hit by his laser beam or his satelites. Very good too with arilou vs. utwig. The only ships that seems to have immunity to this trick are the terminator (second place or not?) or the probe or the skiff(these two has special movement).
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« Reply #119 on: September 03, 2003, 01:34:51 pm »

Quote: "Even harder was when I actually managed to beat an Avatar (weak cyborg) with a Zoq-Fot-Pik Stinger without losing any crew. Any use of the tractor beam would doom the ZFP, however, so a smarter A.I. or a human player would be nearly impossible. (Weak Cyborg doesn't use the Avatar's special at all.)"

Actually I can beat a Chmmr on Awesome with a Zot-Foq-Pik.  You make a mistake you're done for, but it's possible to stay away from the tractor.

Quote: "I'll explain. The "flipping" trick is a trick which uses AI weakness to make them to turn around(facing thier back to you). This trick is simple to be done. Go into "chasing" mode when you are the one who run(with the pkunk it should be 2-3 screens) then turn around and attack. The (stupid) avatar will turn around and you can attack him and run without getting hit by his laser beam or his satelites. Very good too with arilou vs. utwig. The only ships that seems to have immunity to this trick are the terminator (second place or not?) or the probe or the skiff(these two has special movement)."

Agreed.  Quite effective and devastating too against the Utwig and Spathi if you play with the Zot-Foq-Pik.   But yeah you can juke the AI and make it turn away from your approach pretty easy in general.
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